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Created on: 12/03/10 02:00 PM Views: 5170 Replies: 11
anti-inflammatory diet
Posted Friday, December 3, 2010 at 2:00 PM

A good friend was recently told by her chiro to follow the "deflame diet" (www.deflame.com). It allows eggs (the kind with extra omegas), fish, poultry, and grass fed beef, lots of fruits, veggies, nuts, seeds, very little dairy and NO grains. Does this make any kind of sense? Or, is it basically a way to moderate the SAD slightly? She is not clinically gluten-intolerant/celiac, her issues are ongoing random health problems, back pain, and the like (xray shows an apparent old healed over fracture in her spine). I did a quick Google on "anti-inflammatory diet" and got over 11 million hits. Among them, Dr. Weil's website popped up (I know I've heard the name, don't know why) and it was almost totally opposite this deflame site (whole grains, fruits, veggies, no animals) - both agree on kicking refined, processed foods, hydrogenated fats, etc.

Anyone have any input? Have you ever heard of this site? My friend contacted us because we're her 'go to' folks when it comes to nutrition and healthy eating and such (LOL at least we know where to ask the questions)

--Deb R

RE: anti-inflammatory diet
Posted Friday, December 3, 2010 at 2:22 PM

Hi Bugsmom

I'm trying to imagine why a health professional would recommend this diet.

I know this is a long shot but did your friend by any chance go to this guy and say: "I want to gain weight, raise my blood pressure and increase my risk of developing type 2 diabetes and various forms of cancer, now please tell me how to do it."

Theodore

Never make assumptions. You'll end up being an A**, and the UMP will TION you. -- Coach Smiley -- Fresh Prince of Bel Air

RE: anti-inflammatory diet
Posted Friday, December 3, 2010 at 2:37 PM

theodore wrote:

Hi Bugsmom

I'm trying to imagine why a health professional would recommend this diet.

I know this is a long shot but did your friend by any chance go to this guy and say: "I want to gain weight, raise my blood pressure and increase my risk of developing type 2 diabetes and various forms of cancer, now please tell me how to do it."

Theodore


LOL nope! She's already lost a bunch of weight (and still losing) in a balanced, sensible way (albeit including lean poultry, fish and low fat dairy on occasion). As a college student out in the boonies (where romaine is considered 'cuisine' and quinoa is pretty much unheard of!), eating cafeteria meal plan food, she does what she can with what's available.

My most generous thoughts on this are that the chiro who suggested this is used to people on the SAD who would totally rebel at the thought of no animal products and eating green veggies. So, it's a modest improvement in that regard.

My suggestion back to her (after I vented a bit lol) was to remove wheat and the other gluten grains as if she was gluten intolerant/celiac. Eat lots of fruits and veggies (one of the few bits I agreed with in the "plan" she sent); whole grains like brown rice and quinoa; go easy on nuts (since she's still needing to lose weight); get an inexpensive coffee grinder to grind flaxseeds to add to oatmeal and such; and only eat meat/dairy/eggs when there really is nothing else available in the cafeteria. Thankfully, she's only got a week or two left on campus - she's moving off campus over the holidays and finishing her last semester where she can control the food options.

Thanks for your input - I didn't think I was totally crazy but it's nice to have confirmation that, in this at least, I'm not.
--Deb R

RE: anti-inflammatory diet
Posted Friday, December 3, 2010 at 2:45 PM

Theodore - once again you crack me up !!

Vikki ~ Wild4Stars@gmail.com

RE: anti-inflammatory diet
Posted Friday, December 3, 2010 at 2:47 PM

This makes no sense whatsoever except for the elimination of dairy. Of course the specific recommendations for your friend will be determined by her current conditions and what she would like to accomplish as far as her health goals are. I would recommend that your friend start with The Vegetarian Starter Kit which is down loadable for free off the PCRM website. More specific information can be found on the PCRM website which is a great resource. The next step would be to sign up for the next 21-Day Kickstart program. I hope this helps.

Don Forrester MD

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RE: anti-inflammatory diet
Posted Friday, December 3, 2010 at 4:55 PM

Deb, your suggestion and Dr. Don's are both great, from what I've read.

But my main question is this:
Why is anyone, even out in the boonies, taking nutritional advice from a CHIROPRACTOR???

Also, if this Chiropractor is recommending a specific name brand diet, there's a good chance he's getting a kick-back from it.

Most name brand diets are a load of bull. You can't put a trademark on healthy eating.

No offense, Deb – I know you are smarter than that... I just feel bad for the poor kid who is getting sucked into this deceit.

Molly Horn

Edited 12/03/10 5:01 PM
RE: anti-inflammatory diet
Posted Saturday, December 4, 2010 at 6:18 PM

mollyhorn wrote:


Why is anyone, even out in the boonies, taking nutritional advice from a CHIROPRACTOR???

That was exactly my thought! Rolling Eyes

All we are saying is "Give Peas a Chance"

RE: anti-inflammatory diet
Posted Monday, December 6, 2010 at 9:33 AM

mollyhorn wrote:

Also, if this Chiropractor is recommending a specific name brand diet, there's a good chance he's getting a kick-back from it.

Most name brand diets are a load of bull. You can't put a trademark on healthy eating.

No offense, Deb – I know you are smarter than that... I just feel bad for the poor kid who is getting sucked into this deceit.


Oh, I didn't take offense at all, y'all are confirming what I already knew.

However, I will say that way back when (over 5 yrs ago now) we had two doctors recommend the DASH diet plan for hubby's hypertension before they even suggested medication. DASH is what started us on the path toward vegetarian and now into the realm of vegan. DASH does include meat and dairy (since it's designed for folks who aren't intending to give up those things) but it puts it in the littlest space on the plate, not the centerpiece, preferring whole grains, fruits and veggies to meat/dairy.

Sure, you can't trademark healthy eating but there are folks out there who can help point a direction - after all, most of the doctors here at PCRM have their own books on eating and nutrition, right?

--Deb R

RE: anti-inflammatory diet
Posted Monday, December 6, 2010 at 2:05 PM

You're correct, but not in the way I meant. I was talking about diets that peddle specific products, e.g. Atkins, The Zone, Nutrisystem, etc. Diets where you have to buy their specific products and supplements in order to participate.

DASH was written by doctors and intended to be a medically-supervised plan. I think it's a great plan for omnis, still. The PCRM and affiliated docs who've written books aren't "name-brand" in the sense I meant. I think you get my drift. Smile

Molly Horn

RE: anti-inflammatory diet
Posted Tuesday, December 7, 2010 at 10:44 AM

Ah - now I get it. The ones that get me are the ones on the commercials where you have to buy 4 weeks of their plan food - at least things like Atkins or South Beach you can do with your own groceries, not necessarily their products (of course, their products make it 'easier').

--Deb R

RE: anti-inflammatory diet
Posted Thursday, November 29, 2012 at 4:21 PM

It is not really a diet but more of a way of life by eating certain foods, but the concept itself which says any excess inflammation in the body will lead to health troubles of all kinds, you could have inflammation when you wake up in the morning and things like this.
But anyway you are following a generally healthy diet you could be on anti inflammatory diet without knowing you are, like olive oil and garlic, ginger all are good anti inflammatory diet food and it works if you want to gain weight or if you want to lose it because either ways you got to eat healthy.

Gain weight by eating healthy foods, find the calories rich foods that will not cause any health troubles in the long run.

RE: anti-inflammatory diet
Posted Saturday, January 26, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Sometimes it amazes me how little people understand about nutrition, health and wellness. First of all about chiropractors and nutrition.....those doctors are some of the very best to go to for nutritional advice. MD's have very little education in nutrition. I just had a conversation with one of my best friends who is an MD. They just don't teach it. Medical school curriculum was taken over by the drug companies many years ago. They teach drugs, drugs, drugs!

Secondly, who thinks a diet based on fresh fruits and vegetables, with fish and lean poultry is a bad plan???? I don't understand the gentleman or the doctor who said this plan wasn't sound.

Thirdly, she has pain....it's all about reducing inflammation in the body. The body's response to inflammation is responsible for most things that send someone to the doctor's office.

THIS plan is how we are supposed to eat. Eating highly processed food and too much sugar and dairy is why our country is a sick sick country. We have gotten away from the God given foods we can grow to artificial everything....just look around, it's NOT working.

Good for your friend, (and her smart chiropractor)...How's she doing now?


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