veggies4me
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High Triglycerides/Lovoza
Posted Thursday, March 31, 2011 at 7:55 PM
I just had blood work done and the good news is the blood sugar, total cholesterol and HDL are in range (I've been eating vegetarian since January 1st and I attribute these results to this plan). My problem is my doctor wants me to take Lovoza because my triglycerides are high. I am afraid this is going to add fat to my diet which is opposite of what Doctor Barnard suggests. I don't want to get off course, iv'e lost a lot of weight and need to keep going. Anyone taking this? What are your thoughts?
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Wild4Stars
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Location: Florida
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RE: High Triglycerides/Lovoza
Posted Thursday, March 31, 2011 at 8:12 PM
I did a quick search on the side effects and I don't think I would take it. They would probably have to tell me, "Take this or you'll die next week." I would give the diet a chance, at least six months and have it checked again.
Vikki ~ Wild4Stars@gmail.com
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cch22
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Location: New York State
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RE: High Triglycerides/Lovoza
Posted Friday, April 1, 2011 at 6:56 AM
http://www.prescription2000.com/Interview-Transcripts/2011-02-18-william-castelli-heart-disease-lipids-transcript.html I subscibe to Jeff Novick on facebook. He posted this yesterday.
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Susan Levin
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RE: High Triglycerides/Lovoza
Posted Friday, April 1, 2011 at 9:55 AM
If your TGs are high, lowering fat will certainly help. Avoiding refined carbohydrates will help too. Make sure your carb sources are mostly whole such as beans, whole grains, vegetables, and fruits.
Susan Levin, MS, RD PCRM Director of Nutrition Education
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Bugsmom
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RE: High Triglycerides/Lovoza
Posted Friday, April 1, 2011 at 11:05 AM
Susan Levin wrote: If your TGs are high, lowering fat will certainly help. Avoiding refined carbohydrates will help too. Make sure your carb sources are mostly whole such as beans, whole grains, vegetables, and fruits. Thumbs up. It can take some time to get the numbers down but even my already-good triglyceride numbers have gone down since the September kickstart (my first). And, hubby's (his LDL and trig are high, HDL low) have improved significantly. (full disclosure he is on blood pressure and cholesterol lowering meds currently; he's lowered the trig and LDL but he's still "upside down" at this point so the meds stay...for now!) A few years ago, as we were going from omni to vegetarian, he ate basic old fashioned cooked on the stovetop oatmeal for 6 months (winter in New England!). When he went back for his follow up lab work, the doctor did a double take - his lipid levels overall (trig, LDL, HDL) had dropped that much. Unfortunately, he's also got some genetic "predispositions" to deal with and he's had a minor scare (ER said it was a TIA, family doctor thinks it was a caffeine-induced vasospasm) so the meds stay until things significantly change. All fairly low doses and he's motivated to reduce them even further. Actually, we're looking forward to seeing what his next lab work shows in a couple weeks since there's now been a good 6 months of (mostly) vegan eating on his part. And, along with that stuff, he's lost enough weight that friends are starting to comment on it (since moving in the veg*n direction some 5-6 years ago, he's lost somewhere in the 80-100 pound range, but there's been a distinct 'chunk' lost in the last 6 months that is noticeable - in a good way). And weight loss is another factor in reducing all those lipids. --Deb R
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terry
Joined: 03/31/11
Location: Saskatchewan, Canada
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RE: High Triglycerides/Lovoza
Posted Friday, April 1, 2011 at 3:01 PM
I can relate, Deb with your husband's health concerns. I too am on blood pressure, water pill, and cholesterol meds. I wasn't feeling good on the cholesterol pills (muscle weakness) and found that it got a bit better since quitting it on my own. When at the doctor's this week, she told me the LDL was a little high and would monitor it. She also told me my thyroid was up a bit as well. I don't want to take any more medications, as I also taking arthrotec for arthritis (which had initially caused the high blood pressure) and metformin for PCOD (not diabetic - yet!). I let my doctor know about this kickstart, so she's going to check all my levels in 3 months. I'm hoping that not eating meat will help my arthritis as well, as Dr. Barnard pointed out in his program. I'm motivated to do this and make changes -- I'm also 'fearful' that I won't be able to stick to it, but I'm going to take it one-day at a time, as they say. Terry
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Bugsmom
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RE: High Triglycerides/Lovoza
Posted Friday, April 1, 2011 at 3:15 PM
terry wrote: I'm also 'fearful' that I won't be able to stick to it, but I'm going to take it one-day at a time, as they say. Terry Yeah - between us (hubby's hypertension and hyperlipidemia and my type2 diabetes) we've got a lot of juggling to do sometimes. Or we did anyway. Now, we can pretty much eat the same things most of the time (I just keep an eye on some of the carbier things) Also, the thing about the kickstart is that it's not some sort of 'diet plan' that you have to follow exactly. I haven't yet done it exactly as written (I've done two previously) but the results are still good. That is, I don't necessarily eat oatmeal when it says oatmeal on the menu, I don't necessarily eat a stir fry when it says stir fry, etc. Sometimes I'll see that the menu item looks tasty and we've usually got the ingredients handy (things like lentils and quinoa are now staples in our kitchen) so we'll go ahead and do it. But mostly we just abide by principles rather than rules: no animal products low fat whole foods (whole grains, whole fruits and veggies) low glycemic lots of fiber lots of water/liquids (soup is mostly liquid, for example) If you're used to the idea of "failing" with a diet, that's not the way the kickstart is designed. Sticking to the kickstart is way easier because you eat until you are comfortably satisfied. It's not about how much you eat as about how you eat, if that makes sense. Even my almost 13 yr old son is pretty much content with vegan eating. I'll ask him things like "do you want me to pick up a couple cans of tuna for you?" and he'll say "No, just make sure we have chickpeas for the 'not tuna' salad" He loves bok choy, kale, chard (all new things to all of us since September) - okay so he's an odd kid who gets a big smile when he finds out we're having steamed broccoli and chickpea quinoa pilaf for dinner.  --Deb R
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veggies4me
Joined: 01/05/11
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RE: High Triglycerides/Lovoza
Posted Friday, April 1, 2011 at 7:17 PM
[color=blue]Terry wrote: and metformin for PCOD (not diabetic - yet![color=blue I have PCOS too - this plan is the best! I was wondering if it's because of the PCOS that I notice such success on this plan. I've lost weight before, but not like this -- this is without any pain, suffering or cravings! Is this your first time? Please let me know how this works for you.
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mommyof2nc
Joined: 12/31/09
Location: North Carolina
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RE: High Triglycerides/Lovoza
Posted Friday, April 1, 2011 at 8:41 PM
Susan Levin wrote: If your TGs are high, lowering fat will certainly help. Avoiding refined carbohydrates will help too. Make sure your carb sources are mostly whole such as beans, whole grains, vegetables, and fruits. Also, drinking alcohol can cause your triglycerides to go up as well. My brother-in-law (who isn't vegan) had super high triglycerides (in the 330s+) until he gave up alcohol. He used to drink alcohol every night and even made his own beers, though, so that might not apply to you. Now, he said they're still high but much lower (I think he said they're down to 190) but he won't even consider changing his diet (believe me, I've tried and continue to try, to get him to change but he's soo stubborn), so he just started taking medication.
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veggies4me
Joined: 01/05/11
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RE: High Triglycerides/Lovoza
Posted Sunday, April 3, 2011 at 9:25 AM
Thanks for all the input. I've decided to keep at this low-fat, high fiber, vegetarian way of eating without starting the Lovaza. I'll get my blood work repeated again in about 6 months and see what kind of changes occur. I'd feel better starting the "healthy oils" after my weight is were it needs to be.
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