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Created on: 01/10/10 11:35 PM Views: 1875 Replies: 7
no milk no tofu, no soy
Posted Sunday, January 10, 2010 at 11:35 PM

I would like to know what to use instead milk or cheese. I can not eat soy or tofu, because I had breast cancer sensitive to hormones and the doctor recommend me to not use soy products.
thank you Razz Idea

RE: no milk no tofu, no soy
Posted Sunday, January 10, 2010 at 11:44 PM

There are some excellent, non-soy cheese recipes in the Uncheese cookbooks. If you don't have access to them, please let me know and I'll type some of them in for you.

Serene Vannoy, Oakland, CA
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My daily Kickstart blog: http://serenecooking.livejournal.com/tag/kickstart

RE: no milk no tofu, no soy
Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 12:18 AM

And milk is easier. Take 1 cup of one of the following things and blend with 4 cups water. Strain if you want (I don't bother); add sugar/salt if you want (I don't):

* raw nuts (cashews, almonds, walnuts...)
* cooked rice (brown works best)
* raw or cooked rolled oats


To pour on cereal, blending a banana with water works well, but you have to use it right away or it goes brown. The other "milks" will keep for a few days in the fridge.

Serene Vannoy, Oakland, CA
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My daily Kickstart blog: http://serenecooking.livejournal.com/tag/kickstart

RE: no milk no tofu, no soy
Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 10:05 AM

As a hard core milk and cheese addict I am finding it impossible to tolerate the various rice milks, soy milks etc. The flavored ones are bit better but so far I have tried soy milk,non dairy creamer and rice milk and I cannot tolerate the taste. Any other suggestions that can be store bought and taste like milk?

RE: no milk no tofu, no soy
Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 10:14 AM

Have you tried almond milk?

You might also try sucking warm whole milk right from a cow or goat's teet.
I have heard that once you do that, you don't want to drink the de-natured stuff so much.

For cheese flavor I have learned to cook with nutritional yeast flake. The sauce I make with it inside of my mushroom and spinach enchiladas is to die for.

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RE: no milk no tofu, no soy
Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 10:16 AM

I dont enjoy any other soy but Eden soy vanilla. Give it a try it has a sweeter flavor than most and it can be diluted with water in recipes. I could not tolerate the rice milk or almond milk.

RE: no milk no tofu, no soy
Posted Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 4:23 PM

VeganRecipeGuy wrote:

Have you tried almond milk?
For cheese flavor I have learned to cook with nutritional yeast flake. The sauce I make with it inside of my mushroom and spinach enchiladas is to die for.

Awww....now come on...when you say that...you really need to share the recipe!

Regards,
Jamie

September Kickstart Goals: Walk/bike daily, keep up with forum, 100% low-fat vegan experimenting with maximizing FLAVOR!

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RE: no milk no tofu, no soy
Posted Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 4:38 PM

dvorah wrote:

I would like to know what to use instead milk or cheese. I can not eat soy or tofu, because I had breast cancer sensitive to hormones and the doctor recommend me to not use soy products.
thank you Razz Idea

I was/am a total milk and cheese freak (recovering, at this point) Very Happy

Even when I was an omni or just a garden-variety vegetarian (not vegan), I always went dairy free whenever I was sick. I could always sense how much dairy increased that already bad mucus of a cold; I just couldn't bear to increase it more (I typically got BAD colds). It was very hard the first few days, but by the end of the cold, I wasn't really thinking about drinking milk much at all. I always did go back to it.

Just before this Kickstart began, I got a cold (literally, the day after Christmas!). Out went the dairy, as usual for me during a cold. But this time I didn't restart! Cool

In the past, when I'd tried various non-dairy milks (usually while I was still drinking dairy), I just didn't like them...AT ALL. It was as if I still had the taste of dairy in my mouth, and simply preferred it; it was familiar.

This time....it was completely different. The taste of dairy was already out of my mouth...and I found I really enjoyed almond milk! I don't use it a lot, just to make my hot cereal a little creamier and to take my medications (which I have to crush up and take with applesauce).

I've also tried hemp milk, and plan to try others to see which I will like for various uses. I bought some bulk nuts, and plan to try making some of my own. Working my way up to soy and rice...I REALLY didn't like those when I tried them years ago.

So maybe just give your palate time. Get completely off dairy for at least a week (which you've done if you're on this Kickstart). Then try a non-dairy milk made from something you really like (which was almonds for me; I would never try the hazelnut one available at my grocery store...as I can't stand hazelnuts!) Don't drink it straight if you are unsure; have it as a part of something (I do love a little stirred into my hot kamut). Don't expect it to taste like dairy; be open to its unique taste!

Hope that helps!

Regards,
Jamie

September Kickstart Goals: Walk/bike daily, keep up with forum, 100% low-fat vegan experimenting with maximizing FLAVOR!

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