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Created on: 08/30/11 03:57 PM Views: 2844 Replies: 17
New Kickstart starting soon!
Posted Tuesday, August 30, 2011 at 3:57 PM

We've found one bonus to not stocking the fridge and freezer with meat and dairy - it doesn't stink with piles of wasted stuff after two days without power! A co-worker is not looking forward to cleaning out all the thawed and unusable meat in her freezer. We don't have any. We did have a bit of dairy (cream cheese, sour cream, butter, mayo, a couple eggs - the whole household is not vegan but is vegetarian at least) but nowhere near what most people will be losing and rebuying. Maybe this is actually a good thing for those in New England/east coasters who didn't know what to do with their existing animal based products before starting the kickstart.
--Deb R

RE: New Kickstart starting soon!
Posted Tuesday, August 30, 2011 at 11:47 PM

Hey Bugsmom! Thanks for getting the September Forums launched.

That's the spirit!

Lani

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RE: New Kickstart starting soon!
Posted Wednesday, August 31, 2011 at 5:57 PM

I just got the email that the kickstart will be starting soon. So I decided to check out the menus to see what I needed to buy. This is my 3rd kickstart and I was VERY disappointed to see the EXACT same menu from the last kickstart. I figured at least this time you would mix it up some since a lot of the same people are doing these kickstarts. I was hoping for a new and renewed kickstart to get me motivated and on the right track but instead I already have all these recipes and while they are great, I have used them quite often and was looking for something NEW!!!

Kathy

RE: New Kickstart starting soon!
Posted Wednesday, August 31, 2011 at 11:07 PM

Ugh, Bugsmom. Still a mess any way you look at it. Hope everything else is otherwise OK.

Vegangirl, maybe we can get some good recipe threads going for some alternatives. I am probably one of the few, but didn't really like many of the Kickstart recipes. I do cook so have many things that taste good to me! Just tried an awesome lightly cooked fresh tomato sauce last night. They said it served 4, but...uh...for me it was about 1.5! It was in our newspaper last week and I almost never find anything remotely interesting there. The original recipe does call for sauteing in oil, so will work on how to toast garlic otherwise.

Glad to be back and psyched up to get back on track.

Pam

RE: New Kickstart starting soon!
Posted Thursday, September 1, 2011 at 10:19 AM

I'm excited. I've been vegan since December 2009 and I've always enjoyed the kickstarts, but always made my own food. I'm doing it with my daughter this time, and have decided to get the shopping list (already have most of it anyway) and actually follow the kick start diet.

RE: New Kickstart starting soon!
Posted Thursday, September 1, 2011 at 10:26 AM

WhisperCat1 wrote:

I'm excited. I've been vegan since December 2009 and I've always enjoyed the kickstarts, but always made my own food. I'm doing it with my daughter this time, and have decided to get the shopping list (already have most of it anyway) and actually follow the kick start diet.

Hey Whisper - you are so smart to be prepared in advance - I always say, "What you have is what you'll eat" - but I don't need to tell you that, obviously.

Nice work!

Lani


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RE: New Kickstart starting soon!
Posted Thursday, September 1, 2011 at 12:06 PM

I'm excitied about the new Kickstart...this will be my third time, the first was super successful, the second I messed up and now I need to get it right this time. I am finding myself in a pre-diabetic situation, needing to lose 15 pounds and some answers to night time cravings and inability to handel my carb overloads...I have to take control and do it now!!! Will need alot of help as my family is not in the least interested in making this journey with me.

RE: New Kickstart starting soon!
Posted Thursday, September 1, 2011 at 12:50 PM

I am disappointed also that there isn't any new recipes - good point made; that a lot of us are returning and would like variety. I remembered someone mentioning that from last kickstart - perhaps next kickstart our comments will be notedSmile

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RE: New Kickstart starting soon!
Posted Thursday, September 1, 2011 at 2:54 PM

peacefirevegan wrote:

I am disappointed also that there isn't any new recipes - good point made; that a lot of us are returning and would like variety. I remembered someone mentioning that from last kickstart - perhaps next kickstart our comments will be notedSmile

Maybe the Kickstart team didn't realize how many of us would come back for successive Kickstarts??

Pam

RE: New Kickstart starting soon!
Posted Thursday, September 1, 2011 at 2:59 PM

LaniMuelrath wrote:


Hey Whisper - you are so smart to be prepared in advance - I always say, "What you have is what you'll eat" - but I don't need to tell you that, obviously.

Nice work!

Lani


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Lani, I pretty much hate it when you can read my mind before I can read my mind!! Laughing Can you see that partial red velvet cake wrapped in foil (you DO have xray eyes!) and shoved into the back of my freezer? Garbage day tomorrow!!

Pam

RE: New Kickstart starting soon!
Posted Thursday, September 1, 2011 at 6:39 PM

I am so glad the kickstart is back. It will be my 3rd too.
I wish there were new recipes too. I did notice, though, that a lot of people who wrote in to the previous forums what they were going to eat for the day or ate, weren't following the menu much.(nothing wrong with this)....I remember Jill Eckert saying something like: Write down what's for breakfast, what's for lunch, what's for dinner. So she is teaching us skills to plan our own meals. The 1,000 recipes in www.NutritionMD.org plus the www.delectableplanet.com are a wonderful wealth of great recipes that correspond well with the kickstart. Plus all of Dr. Neal Barnard's books and the celebrities share so many recipes. There were many great recipe contributions from forum members so maybe some of these could be incorporated into a menu with accompanying videos. This kickstart changed my whole life and I am so grateful.

RE: New Kickstart starting soon!
Posted Thursday, September 1, 2011 at 8:19 PM

Hi im sofia from argentina, im so happy about this kickstart, ive been trying to be a vegan for a while but cheat quite often though Sad, its really hard because i dont know any vegans, not even vegetarians so sometimes its hard to get inspired. I hope from shareing with you people it will be easier, so im so exited!!!cant wait!

RE: New Kickstart starting soon!
Posted Thursday, September 1, 2011 at 9:04 PM

When I first went vegan I was totally on my own. Since then I converted my business partner and 2 other friends. Be an example, express your success, the weight you lose and how much better you feel. You'll have other vegans (at least vegetarians) before you know it.

Vikki ~ Wild4Stars@gmail.com

RE: New Kickstart starting soon!
Posted Friday, September 2, 2011 at 2:58 AM

sofinew wrote:

Hi im sofia from argentina, im so happy about this kickstart, ive been trying to be a vegan for a while but cheat quite often though Sad, its really hard because i dont know any vegans, not even vegetarians so sometimes its hard to get inspired. I hope from shareing with you people it will be easier, so im so exited!!!cant wait!

Hi Sofia,

I just wanted to send you a welcome to the kickstart from another international person. I am in New Zealand and this is my third kickstart. There is a lovely small vegan restaurant in the town where I live but I am the only vegan in my family, amongst my friends and in my workplace. There are not even any vegetarians amongst these groups so I understand how it can be challenging. Sometimes people just dont get it. Like my mother will cook dinner but has used cows milk in something! I hope you find the kickstart as useful as I do. I particularly find the forums realy interesting and helpful.

Good luck with it all
christine

Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food - Hippocrates.

RE: New Kickstart starting soon!
Posted Friday, September 2, 2011 at 7:44 AM

I actually don't mind having the same menus. Maybe I can get it right this time. But, also, on the 3rd time, I think you can start substituing some of your own meals, ideas.

RE: New Kickstart starting soon!
Posted Friday, September 2, 2011 at 4:07 PM

This is the fifth kickstart for me. I have always been disappointed that so many recipes appear to be catering to those who enjoy meat. Fakin' Bacon, etc. I never ever liked meat, and I don't want anything that mimics it. On those days, I will not use the recipes. I hope there are others who have pure veggie recipes to share that do not include TVP.

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RE: New Kickstart starting soon!
Posted Friday, September 2, 2011 at 4:07 PM

This is the fifth kickstart for me. I have always been disappointed that so many recipes appear to be catering to those who enjoy meat. Fakin' Bacon, etc. I never ever liked meat, and I don't want anything that mimics it. On those days, I will not use the recipes. I hope there are others who have pure veggie recipes to share that do not include TVP.

Life is a song worth singing.

RE: New Kickstart starting soon!
Posted Friday, September 2, 2011 at 4:17 PM

maggie wrote:

This is the fifth kickstart for me. I have always been disappointed that so many recipes appear to be catering to those who enjoy meat. Fakin' Bacon, etc. I never ever liked meat, and I don't want anything that mimics it. On those days, I will not use the recipes. I hope there are others who have pure veggie recipes to share that do not include TVP.

We don't use soy (except small amounts of soy sauce occasionally) so we skip the soy analog products and we've just never liked TVP. Not to mention that most of them are heavily salted - counterproductive for hubby's blood pressure (which was where our path toward veganism started). We do use nutritional yeast for a few things (like cheeze sauce).

But, the kickstart is designed for people who have no starting point to work from, no idea what to eat if there's not meat in the middle of the plate (except maybe a salad). Way back when, before we even heard about the kickstart, we used Quorn chicken sub (uses a mycoprotein fungus and egg white to mimic chicken, taste and texture aren't bad at all). But then the cost got to be too much so we branched out to other things that were strictly veg based. But, it was helpful to cut the apron strings as it were - to recognize "Hey we went a whole week without any meat!" which became "Hey we haven't even touched that last package of Quorn in the freezer - guess we don't really need that either"

Once you've got a few kickstarts and some good recipes (and sources for more recipes), the kickstart recipes are reminders more than new information. We loved the recipes the first time around - the roasted pepper carrot soup is a regular now - and the intros on how to use things like kale, bok choy, chard, lentils were super helpful. Those things are now standard and we don't bother with the ones that use analogs - but we might use the concept and chop up some mushrooms or something for texture.

--Deb R


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