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| vegmom2two
Joined: 01/03/10 Location: California Posts: 18 |
Low Carb and Vegan????? Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 3:06 PM Hello all, |
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LaniMuelrath
 Location: California Posts: 557 |
RE: Low Carb and Vegan????? Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 3:43 PM Hey vegmom, It's a matter of quality and calorie density. If we are sure to eat to satisfaction on whole, quality foods that are considered "carbs", such as rice, beans (lots of protein), grains, and starches such as yams, squash, and their friends, you "crowd out" the easy edibles like crackers that can be SO easy to overat! And with flour instead of whole grains, you can easily overshoot your calorie needs to stay trim. I know for me it makes a difference. More bowls of grains and starches than bread, and sprouted at that! Beans are also a primo food for getting your skinny on without having to go "lo carb". No doubt your appetite is up due to nursing. Satisfy it with whole, quality foods and you'll see a difference! Lani Lani Muelrath, M.A. CGFI, CPBN
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VeganRecipeGuy
 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 131 |
RE: Low Carb and Vegan????? Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 3:46 PM Dr. Fuhrman's program is very vegan friendly and certainly low carb....so I lean more toward a McDougall's program myself.
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| vegmom2two
Joined: 01/03/10 Location: California Posts: 18 |
RE: Low Carb and Vegan????? Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 3:55 PM LaniMuelrath wrote: Hey vegmom, It's a matter of quality and calorie density. If we are sure to eat to satisfaction on whole, quality foods that are considered "carbs", such as rice, beans (lots of protein), grains, and starches such as yams, squash, and their friends, you "crowd out" the easy edibles like crackers that can be SO easy to overat! And with flour instead of whole grains, you can easily overshoot your calorie needs to stay trim. I know for me it makes a difference. More bowls of grains and starches than bread, and sprouted at that! Beans are also a primo food for getting your skinny on without having to go "lo carb". No doubt your appetite is up due to nursing. Satisfy it with whole, quality foods and you'll see a difference! Lani Thank you so much for all of the advice!...I'll be sure NOT to pick up the crackers next time I go to Trader Joe's!!!! LOL...Also maybe I can start planning most of meals around beans since those seem to make me feel full!!!!! |
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| vegmom2two
Joined: 01/03/10 Location: California Posts: 18 |
RE: Low Carb and Vegan????? Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 3:56 PM VeganRecipeGuy wrote: Dr. Fuhrman's program is very vegan friendly and certainly low carb....so I lean more toward a McDougall's program myself. What's the difference between the two? |
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| VeganRecipeGuy
Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 131 |
RE: Low Carb and Vegan????? Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 4:12 PM Fuhrman is more about produce and limits starches like grains.
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| goobygirl
Joined: 12/31/09 Posts: 70 |
RE: Low Carb and Vegan????? Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 7:44 PM You might want to think about borrowing some recipes from raw veganism like onion "bread" and flaxseed crackers. http://marisashealthykitchen.com/2009/09/17/raw-onion-bread/ http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/snacks/r/flaxcrackers.htm the onion bread recipe is outrageously good. |
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| serenevannoy
Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 294 |
RE: Low Carb and Vegan????? Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 11:02 PM vegmom2two wrote: Hello all, is it possible to follow a vegan diet and limit your carb intake? I mean I seem to be indulging in A LOT of pasta, bread, and crackers!...Maybe it's because I'm still nursing my 1 year old! However what do you all do to feel up instead of eating too much carbs? Thanks Low-carb diets are not healthy for you or your baby. See http://drmcdougall.com/med_hot_highprotein.html and http://pcrm.org/health/veginfo/nutritionfaq.html#Carbs Quoting a bit:
There is a myth that pasta, bread, potatoes, and rice are fattening, but nothing could be further from the truth. Carbohydrate-rich foods are perfect for permanent weight control because they contain less than half the calories of fat, which means that replacing fatty foods with complex carbohydrates automatically cuts calories.
It’s important to remember to eat healthy carbohydrates, such as whole grains, pasta, brown rice, and sweet potatoes. Processed carbohydrates, such as white bread and white rice, are not as healthy a choice because they have lost much of their fiber and other nutrients. [...] The Atkins diet and other low-carb fad diets, which are high in fat and protein and severely restrict carbohydrates, are not healthy approaches to losing weight. High-fat, high-protein diets are associated with many health risks, ranging from mild (constipation, headache, and bad breath) to significant (impaired kidney function, osteoporosis, heart disease, diabetes, and cancer). The American Heart Association, the American Dietetic Association, and the American Kidney Fund have all published statements warning about the various dangers associated with low-carbohydrate, high-protein diets. Serene Vannoy, Oakland, CA |
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| VeganRecipeGuy
Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 131 |
RE: Low Carb and Vegan????? Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 11:13 PM McDougall's new program for maximum weight loss is as low-carb as the Dr. Fuhrman program, so it would seem that McDougall has moved on his position recently.
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| serenevannoy
Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 294 |
RE: Low Carb and Vegan????? Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 11:36 PM I would be really surprised if the percentage of carbs on MWL is anything like "low carb". In fact, the third chapter in the Maximum Weight Loss book is "Carbohydrates: The Secret to Satisfaction". Serene Vannoy, Oakland, CA |
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| VeganRecipeGuy
Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 131 |
RE: Low Carb and Vegan????? Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 11:44 PM Yeah but there is no flour or pasta and restricted grains. I mean, plants ARE carbs first and foremost. But it is very low carb for a vegan diet. Veggies over grain, no flour. Your starch is going to be squash.
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| serenevannoy
Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 294 |
RE: Low Carb and Vegan????? Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 11:51 PM I look at these things as a percentage of calories. It's only possible to think MWL is "low carb" because it's low in ALL calories (which is, in my opinion, a bad move, but hey, everyone gets to do what they choose with their bodies, and I mean that sincerely). Serene Vannoy, Oakland, CA |
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| vegmom2two
Joined: 01/03/10 Location: California Posts: 18 |
RE: Low Carb and Vegan????? Posted Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 2:16 AM serenevannoy wrote: vegmom2two wrote:
Hello all, is it possible to follow a vegan diet and limit your carb intake? I mean I seem to be indulging in A LOT of pasta, bread, and crackers!...Maybe it's because I'm still nursing my 1 year old! However what do you all do to feel up instead of eating too much carbs? Thanks Low-carb diets are not healthy for you or your baby.
Quoting a bit:
There is a myth that pasta, bread, potatoes, and rice are fattening, but nothing could be further from the truth. Carbohydrate-rich foods are perfect for permanent weight control because they contain less than half the calories of fat, which means that replacing fatty foods with complex carbohydrates automatically cuts calories. It’s important to remember to eat healthy carbohydrates, such as whole grains, pasta, brown rice, and sweet potatoes. Processed carbohydrates, such as white bread and white rice, are not as healthy a choice because they have lost much of their fiber and other nutrients. [...] The Atkins diet and other low-carb fad diets, which are high in fat and protein and severely restrict carbohydrates, are not healthy approaches to losing weight. High-fat, high-protein diets are associated with many health risks, ranging from mild (constipation, headache, and bad breath) to significant (impaired kidney function, osteoporosis, heart disease, diabetes, and cancer). The American Heart Association, the American Dietetic Association, and the American Kidney Fund have all published statements warning about the various dangers associated with low-carbohydrate, high-protein diets. |
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| serenevannoy
Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 294 |
RE: Low Carb and Vegan????? Posted Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 2:22 AM vegmom2two wrote: I know that low carb diets are not healthy...I was asking about lowering my carb intake...I seem to be eating way too much carbs now that I cut out cheese What makes you think that? What percentage of your calories come from carbs in a day? If it's less than about 85%, I doubt you're eating too many carbs. Serene Vannoy, Oakland, CA |
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| vegmom2two
Joined: 01/03/10 Location: California Posts: 18 |
RE: Low Carb and Vegan????? Posted Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 2:23 AM goobygirl wrote: You might want to think about borrowing some recipes from raw veganism like onion "bread" and flaxseed crackers. http://marisashealthykitchen.com/2009/09/17/raw-onion-bread/ http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/snacks/r/flaxcrackers.htm the onion bread recipe is outrageously good. Thank you I'll take a look at these! |
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| vegmom2two
Joined: 01/03/10 Location: California Posts: 18 |
RE: Low Carb and Vegan????? Posted Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 2:28 AM serenevannoy wrote: vegmom2two wrote: I know that low carb diets are not healthy...I was asking about lowering my carb intake...I seem to be eating way too much carbs now that I cut out cheese What makes you think that? What percentage of your calories come from carbs in a day? If it's less than about 85%, I doubt you're eating too many carbs. I just seem to be eating a lot pasta and bread!..More than I use to eat at least! I trying to tone up and eating all the bread and pasta is not going to help me reach my goals!....I'll just have to be a little bit more creative when I cook!...more veggies less pasta...that will do it!!!! |
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| serenevannoy
Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 294 |
RE: Low Carb and Vegan????? Posted Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 2:32 AM Once again, I'll quote Dr. Barnard, and then I'll shut up about it:
There is a myth that pasta, bread, potatoes, and rice are fattening, but nothing could be further from the truth.
Serene Vannoy, Oakland, CA |
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