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Created on: 01/11/10 09:02 PM Views: 3057 Replies: 15
Kickstart Confessional
Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 9:02 PM

I've had some struggles today and I'm blaming the weather! I was fine with the foods I ate today until I got home from work...tired, wet (from the rain) and hungry. My leftover brown rice, veggie patty and peas just didn't do it. So..now I've wolfed down a pile of granola (out of the bag - no "milk") and I'm so full I need a nap. Embarassed

I'm now having a cup of tea in the hopes it will soothe whatever psychological itch needs scratching!

Hope you all had a good food day.

All we are saying is "Give Peas a Chance"

RE: Kickstart Confessional
Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 9:12 PM

Be careful not to blame a vegan diet for the upsets of emotional eating. It doesn't matter what kind of food you are eating, if you are eating your emotions there isn't enough food.

Your best bet is to eat enough to curb your physical hunger and then get quiet, be still and listen to your body, your heart and your emotions. There is something going on here that is not TRUE hunger.

I could be TOTALLY wrong, but that's what I read here.

Vikki ~ Wild4Stars@gmail.com

RE: Kickstart Confessional
Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 9:16 PM

Wild4Stars wrote:

Be careful not to blame a vegan diet for the upsets of emotional eating.

I wasn't blaming the vegan diet I was blaming the weather. Very Happy

All we are saying is "Give Peas a Chance"

RE: Kickstart Confessional
Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 9:19 PM

True, you said that first line! I stand corrected. Living in Florida and experiencing 20 and 30 degree weather the past few days, I'm blaming weather for some things myself!!

Vikki ~ Wild4Stars@gmail.com

RE: Kickstart Confessional
Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 10:23 PM

Wild4Stars wrote:

Living in Florida and experiencing 20 and 30 degree weather the past few days, I'm blaming weather for some things myself!!

Your weather was on our news today! Your temps are colder than ours right now (on the west coast, not the east coast) so there was some smirking going on about all our "snowbirds" (retired Canadians) who head to Florida for some winter sun. Hope it warms up soon for you!

All we are saying is "Give Peas a Chance"

RE: Kickstart Confessional
Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 11:14 PM

I am actually a huge proponent of stress/emotional eating. We do it because it works. The key is not to kick yourself so hard that you stress-eat again to punish yourself, or give up on your healthy choices. Stress eating calms you down; that's why you do it. Don't beat yourself up about it. You ate granola, not fourteen Big Macs. Smile

Serene Vannoy, Oakland, CA
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My daily Kickstart blog: http://serenecooking.livejournal.com/tag/kickstart

RE: Kickstart Confessional
Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 11:30 PM

Okay, I have to confess! I too am starting the emotional eating thing...ugh! I had a bag of frito's with my brown rice and veggie mix today at lunch and binged (not horribly) when I got home. I drive an hour to get home from work, go straight to pick up my daughter and so binging when I get home is a really bad habit of mine. I've been packing fruit for my drive home but this evening I looked at my apple and said, "blah".

I'll give the "going to a quite place" a try but that will not be easy with a 4 year old. Wish I could learn to control myself better.

Thanks for listening.

Mars5788

RE: Kickstart Confessional
Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 11:50 PM

Would it help to have snacks that you really like available? Some of my "really love" snacks are hummus and toast, frozen fruit, and split pea soup (Andersen's is fat-free and vegan!). If you can identify two or three things you LOVE that are perfectly fine to eat, maybe you could just commit to being kind to yourself by always having those things available in your house? Just a suggestion.

Serene Vannoy, Oakland, CA
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My daily Kickstart blog: http://serenecooking.livejournal.com/tag/kickstart

RE: Kickstart Confessional
Posted Monday, January 11, 2010 at 11:59 PM

Being kind to myself -- that's actually a nice thought.

I really like the frozen fruit suggestion. Maybe some vegan crackers or cookies. Nothing crazy just things that are on my "okay but not often" list. Good idea -- I'll stop at the store tomorrow, as I hate to feel defeated.

Have a good night,

Mars5788

RE: Kickstart Confessional
Posted Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 2:05 AM

See, this is the one thing missing from this plan (and why I had strong reactions to the sudden don't-eat-fat thing). It's all about nutrition and rules and foods and recipes, which is great. And the support and info on this forum is awesome.

But it's incomplete. A big part of eating and lifestyle and making changes has to do with our emotions and personalities and motivational factors. I'm not talking about emotional eating; I'm talking about including emotions and motivational factors in this process. Three weeks does not make a habit - contrary to popular belief - in fact, people do things all the time for a month or two (start exercising, try to go to bed earlier, etc.) and then lose interest or motivation. It has to go beyond the scripts (what to eat, how much) and also consider how someone makes changes, what motivates them, what their history is with food and body image, what their reasons are for doing this, their expectations (and how realistic they are), and what has worked for them in the past when they have successfully made a big change and stuck with it.

And there needs to be a clear and consistent message from the "higher-ups" about things, with no new rules or emphases after the commitment. Changing the rules makes many people feel discouraged or duped.

For many people a gradual change may work better than a drastic "these are the no-no's" plan. There's nothing wrong with that. You should do what will work for you. For example, eating vegan during the week but not on the weekends for a month or two, and then switching to six days a week, and then eventually full-time, may be more successful for some people.

Gradual changes can create more lasting habits for a lot of people. Some people do great quitting things suddenly, but that's hard for a lot of people. And to feel one has screwed up, or is not seeing change fast enough, or is always stressed about following things right, will usually lead to abandoning the course.

It needs to feel manageable, as well as a customized fit, so to speak. Lots of people on this plan will drop it after 21 days. But if your goal is to maintain this as a lifestyle, you need to look at the whole picture - the best way for you to make lasting changes in your life, and what is realistic and manageable, for right now, given who you are - and not just think about what you are eating.

Edited 01/12/10 2:08 AM
RE: Kickstart Confessional
Posted Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 7:10 AM

My horrible confession is that I've been doing worse than granola. Every afternoon at work I've had a Dr. Pepper. Yesterday I tried walking a lap or two around my department and then I succumbed to 'need' to go down to the 1st floor lunchroom and get a soda. It didn't even taste right.

After reading this thread it made me think...maybe I should put something in the fridge or freezer down there. That way I still get to get up and go somewhere, but I don't come back to my desk with an unhealthy treat in hand.

At my old office I would get up and go visit a friend in the next building. I didn't realize until just now that my vending machine habit has gotten much worse in the past year since I changed locations.

RE: Kickstart Confessional
Posted Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 8:22 AM

Txgirl -- I also find soda to be very addicting! Over the holidays, we kept soda in the house, and whenever it was gone, I was craving more, to the point that I would actually go to the store only for soda (almost as bad as my old smoking habit). I don't know if it is the sugar or what, but once I start drinking it, I want more and more.

I think the only way to get rid of the cravings is to stop completely -- drink tea or water whenever you have a soda craving, and don't bring any money to work for the vending machine. For me, the cravings went away in a day or two, and now I don't even miss it.

RE: Kickstart Confessional
Posted Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 10:25 AM

Very thoughtful response, RB, and very well said. You are absolutely right that this "sticking to 4 food groups only" will not work for some. We are all here for our own unique reasons. No where was there a disclaimer that said this would be an easy transition for everyone and all aspects of emotional eating would disappear.

For some, like me, we're well aware of our emotional triggers yet, at times, choose to succumb because we're after a quick fix. That's ok, really. I beat myself up for 10 minutes, then calm down and get on with it. As Serene said, at least I didn't eat 14 Big Macs (ewwww!) For me, and I'm sure for many others, this 21-day Kickstart is all about awareness, raising the consciousness bar a notch or two. I think the key word in all this is "kickstart" - a quick boost to give us a taste of what being vegan is all about.

And as Shanna said, what you know you can't unknow. I love that. And what I know, after 12 days, is a lot more than I knew before - all thanks to the daily tips, the wonderful meal plans, and especially what's shared on these forums. It's all food for thought and vegan food to boot.

I am sure the Kickstart team want us to enjoy this short journey. No guilt allowed if we slip up. No consequences for lusting in our hearts for cheese or chocolate. Just a willingness to try it. An openness to see what it's like for our bodies and emotions to experience something new. And most importantly, we should not "over think" it. Just let it flow....

Ooooommmmmm Smile)

Make it a great day, everyone!


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All we are saying is "Give Peas a Chance"

RE: Kickstart Confessional
Posted Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 10:56 AM

My path is one of progress not perfection.

Vikki ~ Wild4Stars@gmail.com

RE: Kickstart Confessional
Posted Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 12:22 PM

Wild4Stars -- You wrote that in another thread, and I'm finding it to be a helpful and forgiving philosophy (as applied to self and others). Thank you for that.

RE: Kickstart Confessional
Posted Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 3:30 PM

drdeb wrote:

Txgirl -- I also find soda to be very addicting! Over the holidays, we kept soda in the house, and whenever it was gone, I was craving more, to the point that I would actually go to the store only for soda (almost as bad as my old smoking habit). I don't know if it is the sugar or what, but once I start drinking it, I want more and more.

I think the only way to get rid of the cravings is to stop completely -- drink tea or water whenever you have a soda craving, and don't bring any money to work for the vending machine. For me, the cravings went away in a day or two, and now I don't even miss it.

Up until very recently I was one of those people who would go to the store for only soda! (It was a short walk) Way back when I was 19 or 20, I didn't drink anything except Dr. Pepper...even for breakfast. I do have some green&white tea at work, but the craving has been hard.

I'm proud to say that today I just walked around a little bit and then ate an apple.


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