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| summerleigh
Joined: 09/23/10 Posts: 55 |
Need some reassurance Posted Sunday, February 13, 2011 at 6:41 PM I had lunch the other day with a friend and her friend who happened to be a nutritionist. Of course, we began discussing nutrition. Her opinion was that a diet of lean protein (chicken, fish ) and vegetables/salads with limited carbs is the "healthiest". I want to continue with my vegan lifestyle. For me, it is mostly about the animals but I also am trying to lose some weight. Whole wheat pasta, quiona, and brown rice are my main carbs. I am eating those along with beans and vegetables. I am sure I am eating more carbs then the lean protein/ salad approach. It is so hard to get rid of the "old fear" of carbs and my lunch encounter did not help! |
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Oceandog
 Location: California, USA Posts: 644 |
RE: Need some reassurance Posted Sunday, February 13, 2011 at 7:43 PM Summerleigh, I am afraid you will always, always, always, encounter someone who thinks whatever you are currently doing is not the best way to do it. Human nature I am afraid. We all like to think the way we are doing something is the best way, because if it isn't...then why are we doing it? Many of us here can find oodles of books with case studies, testimonials, etc.. for a plant-based, low-fat diet. The fact that you want to do this for animals, is awesome! Good for you! That you want to do this for you own health is also awesome!!! For weight loss (believe me I struggle also) the key things to remember stay away from fat, eats lots and lots of veggies and add grains and fruits. Remember eating fresh veggies without all the added sauces and fats is the best way to go. I can't think of anyone (myself included if I follow it) that gets or stays fat just eating a diet with the major portion plain, fresh vegetables! We are all here for encouragement, and please rest assured you are on the right path. Keep eating a variety of vegetables, fruits and then grains. Without the fat and soon you will feel better and better. The higher percentage of vegetables (without fat, did I mention that? Best wishes, Kym Always offer kindness and a soft word to the beings around you; You do not know their journey. Your words can be the hug they need or the shove that breaks them. |
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| theodore
Joined: 09/16/10 Posts: 643 |
RE: Need some reassurance Posted Sunday, February 13, 2011 at 8:00 PM Hi Summerleigh I'm not a doctor or an RD but it sounds like that woman was more of a bulls**tonist than a nutritionist. Sadly, it's getting harder and harder to tell the two disciplines apart. Perhaps Susan will chime in with a more technical answer. Theodore Never make assumptions. You'll end up being an A**, and the UMP will TION you. -- Coach Smiley -- Fresh Prince of Bel Air |
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cch22
 Location: New York State Posts: 1001 |
RE: Need some reassurance Posted Sunday, February 13, 2011 at 9:27 PM I can give you some assurance this is the way to go.. But i will tell you what i tell everyone.. do your own research... and just be open to the information that is everywhere around you. dr oz..saying 1st, 2nd and now 3rd run antibotics arn't working anymore, partly due to the american diet & talking about what they are feeding chickens. Chicken is the easiest thing to find that it really isn't good for you. Then of course there is your own research, your own answers. For me it was a routine yearly checkup at my doctor. Since i was new to vegan, i asked him to do every test that could possibly change and alert me to any "hidden" danger of this new eating plan. I got them all.. They were ALL perfect. In fact some were better than they had been in my entire life!! That's my own reseach. I'm no expert, or a nutrionist, but it's working great for me. As far as talking with your friend again about this, to me i would find other things to share with her and leave food as a personal decision. You can always find someone who disagrees. Yes do watch the fat.. you might decide to take a b-complex & multi vitamin. That is up to you. |
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| Mariberry
Joined: 01/02/10 Posts: 297 |
RE: Need some reassurance Posted Sunday, February 13, 2011 at 10:41 PM theodore wrote: I'm not a doctor or an RD but it sounds like that woman was more of a bulls**tonist than a nutritionist. Good one, Theodore - bulls**tionist - a nutritionist who recommends eating bulls and other meat. Well done you. All we are saying is "Give Peas a Chance" |
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| veganer
Joined: 01/04/11 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 199 |
RE: Need some reassurance Posted Sunday, February 13, 2011 at 10:54 PM Summerleigh, |
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| soon2BVeg
Joined: 08/24/10 Posts: 225 |
RE: Need some reassurance Posted Monday, February 14, 2011 at 9:57 AM People want to hear that they can continue to eat their steak and chicken and lobster tails, so as long as there are nutritionists who will agree with this, they will thrive. Here's some anecdotal evidence for you. My husband has been a vegetarian for about 20 years now. He's not a vegan; he eats the occasional eggs and some cheese, although he finds he feels better when he does not eat cheese. He's 51 years old and he looks great. He weighs the same as he did in high school, his skin is nice and smooth, and he has no known health problems. I look around at meat-eating men his age that I come in contact with, and that's all the evidence I need. Hubby eats at least one banana each day; many times two. He eats apples with abandon, loves salad. He can eat a huge bowl of salad and go back for more. And he eats carbs...lots of them. Cereal, oatmeal, pancakes, whole grain bread, potatoes, rice (we have been brown-rice-only eaters for a long time now). He doesn't put on weight and his cholesterol numbers are good. 'Nuff said. Don't make a New Year's Resolution...make a Decision! |
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| summerleigh
Joined: 09/23/10 Posts: 55 |
RE: Need some reassurance Posted Monday, February 14, 2011 at 10:37 AM Thanks everyone for all the encouragement! It is really helpful and really appreciated !! |
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gryphonpro
 Location: Cape Breton, NS, Canada Posts: 239 |
RE: Need some reassurance Posted Tuesday, February 15, 2011 at 10:32 PM We are planning a documentary about Irene, who will be taking the April Kickstart challenge. Today she was telling her son about it, and he freaked out about the meal plan. He says that an adult NEEDS twice the calories or their body will start consuming itself... another need for reassurance, before the fact! madeline yakimchuk
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| Bugsmom
Joined: 09/13/10 Posts: 2087 |
RE: Need some reassurance Posted Wednesday, February 16, 2011 at 7:10 AM gryphonpro wrote: We are planning a documentary about Irene, who will be taking the April Kickstart challenge. Today she was telling her son about it, and he freaked out about the meal plan. He says that an adult NEEDS twice the calories or their body will start consuming itself... another need for reassurance, before the fact! Did he/they not see the part about eating until you're full/satisfied, not counting/limiting calories? If Irene is not trying to lose weight, she can eat all she wants. If she is trying to lose weight, then a little of that 'consuming' needs to happen - she needs a deficit in intake so her body burns the excess it's carrying. Not to mention it would probably (for a person starting out healthy) take a lot longer than 21 days for that sort of starvation to set in - and in this culture of free access to food, they'd probably hit the fridge, pantry, grocery store long before that happened. --Deb R |
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