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| summerleigh
Joined: 09/23/10 Posts: 55 |
protein powders Posted Thursday, September 23, 2010 at 5:37 PM Hi... I am wondering what everyone thinks about using a protein powder to get protein in their diet. I don't eat soy but today I was in Whole foods and saw a Naturade soy-free protein powder along with hemp powders and pea protein powders. Any thoughts ? |
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Oceandog
 Location: California, USA Posts: 644 |
RE: protein powders Posted Thursday, September 23, 2010 at 5:40 PM Even without soy, if you eat a variety of greens, veggies, grains and legumes, you probably don't need to supplement. Just make sure to include lots of variety. Quinoa, which is an extremely easy grain to cook and fast, is a powerhouse of protein. I LOVE beans with quinoa and salsa. I have a great quinoa salad recipe I keep saying I am going to get posted and then I forget when I get home. I really will try to get that on here. Always offer kindness and a soft word to the beings around you; You do not know their journey. Your words can be the hug they need or the shove that breaks them. |
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| HealthandWealthgenerator
Joined: 09/08/10 Posts: 8 |
RE: protein powders Posted Thursday, September 23, 2010 at 6:51 PM I use a protein powder that is enriched with vitamins and minerals. It works as a meal replacement for me when I am on the go. It keeps my energy sustained and keeps me feeling great. |
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Wild4Stars
 Location: Florida Posts: 832 |
RE: protein powders Posted Thursday, September 23, 2010 at 6:58 PM Historically when I am on vacation I mainly eat fruit and salads. It's just easier than trying to find veg friendly restaurants on the go. I use a protein / vitamin powder, drink one daily, just for the ease of it and to know that I'm getting what I need. When at home and in more control, I prefer to get my protein from food. Vikki ~ Wild4Stars@gmail.com |
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| summerleigh
Joined: 09/23/10 Posts: 55 |
RE: protein powders Posted Thursday, September 23, 2010 at 7:41 PM can you recommend a good protein powder ? Do you know if Hemp or pea protein is better. I do not eat soy. Thanks |
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mollyhorn
 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 582 |
RE: protein powders Posted Thursday, September 23, 2010 at 7:58 PM There are SO MANY protein powders on the market, it's very hard to choose a good one. VEGA makes very high-quality vegan powders, but they are also expensive. There are other companies that make "accidentally vegan" powders (like NOW Pea Protein), and then some that specialize in vegan products. The main thing to look for is no added sugar or other "junk" ingredients. Hemp can be a good choice, if it's not full of other junk. However, I agree with previous posters that it is preferable to get your protein from REAL FOOD. That's what your body wants, anyway. Molly Horn |
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LaniMuelrath
 Location: California Posts: 561 |
RE: protein powders Posted Thursday, September 23, 2010 at 8:47 PM summerleigh wrote: Hi... I am wondering what everyone thinks about using a protein powder to get protein in their diet. I don't eat soy but today I was in Whole foods and saw a Naturade soy-free protein powder along with hemp powders and pea protein powders. Any thoughts ? Hey Summerleigh, The protein powder question really gets us down to the issue of do we need to pack in more protein than can be found in a varied, sufficient-calorie plant-based diet. To help you out with this, here is an excellent article by Dr. John McDougall. It is one among many that the good doc has written to address the protein controversy: Hope this helps! Lani Lani Muelrath, M.A. CGFI, CPBN
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| summerleigh
Joined: 09/23/10 Posts: 55 |
RE: protein powders Posted Thursday, September 23, 2010 at 11:06 PM thank you so much lani. I read the article. It is so hard to retrain yourself to let go of the myth of protein but i am trying. How much protein approximately do you recommend per day for women? Do you need more on days when you "weight train" (not like a bodybuilder just trying to tone!!).?? Thanks for your help! |
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| LaniMuelrath
Location: California Posts: 561 |
RE: protein powders Posted Thursday, September 23, 2010 at 11:34 PM summerleigh wrote: thank you so much lani. I read the article. It is so hard to retrain yourself to let go of the myth of protein but i am trying. How much protein approximately do you recommend per day for women? Do you need more on days when you "weight train" (not like a bodybuilder just trying to tone!!).?? Thanks for your help! Summerleigh, Isn't it a great article? And you're right, the 4 food lobbies (oops, did I say that? To refer to a section of the article:
The World Health Organization (WHO) recommends that men and women obtain 5% of their calories as protein. This would mean 38 grams of protein for a man burning 3000 calories a day and 29 grams for a woman using 2300 calories a day. This quantity of protein is impossible to avoid when daily calorie needs are met by unrefined starches and vegetables. For example, rice alone would provide 71 grams of highly useable protein and white potatoes would provide 64 grams of protein.8 ...even if you were to bump this up to 40 - 50 grams of protein a day, it is easy to get with a whole foods diet of whole grains, starches, and veggies. Remember, protein - amino acids being the building blocks of same - are present in all of these foods. They are mixes of protein, carbohydrate, and fat. We think of "protein" as a food that has huge amounts of protein. This is misleading. Not long ago, I had a chance to address this question directly with a woman who had the same concern. How to get enough protein! So for a day, I logged the protein grams in the foods I ate for the day: sprouted grain bread (coming in at 2.4 grams per piece, for example), brown rice, bean soup, potatoes, vegetables, miso soup....there were bits and pieces and grams in everything and they added up so that by day's end, "by the book", I had between 40 and 50 grams of protein. Without any processed products, everything had fiber, not potions or supplements. It was very helpful to her to hear my description, and was a satisfying project for all. As far as muscle, remember that muscle is made through hard work challenging those muscle fibers and enough calories in a varied, quality diet to build them back up. Yes, this includes amino acids, but you'll get them in what you eat. If you are a specialized body builder, working out hours a day, you are going to simply need more calories which will in turn boost your protein content. See how it works? Lani Lani Muelrath, M.A. CGFI, CPBN
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| mollyhorn
Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 582 |
RE: protein powders Posted Friday, September 24, 2010 at 12:16 AM Wow, Lani – I am so glad you posted all this, and so glad that the original poster asked the question. I knew about the WHO recommendation, but had never seen it broken down so simply and so easy to understand as you wrote and within Dr. McDougall's article. Thank you for all the knowledge!!! Molly Horn |
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| summerleigh
Joined: 09/23/10 Posts: 55 |
RE: protein powders Posted Friday, September 24, 2010 at 11:28 AM Thanks so much Lani ! It is incredibly helpful and appreciated ! |
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| LaniMuelrath
Location: California Posts: 561 |
RE: protein powders Posted Friday, September 24, 2010 at 1:49 PM mollyhorn wrote: Wow, Lani – I am so glad you posted all this, and so glad that the original poster asked the question. I knew about the WHO recommendation, but had never seen it broken down so simply and so easy to understand as you wrote and within Dr. McDougall's article. Thank you for all the knowledge!!! Sure Molly! I'm glad it helped and your response has made me realize this should be a blog post too. Mind if I use your comments? let me know. I love your sign-off. Queen of the drive-thru. Never lose your sense of humor, I say! And wouldn't it be great if we could start matching "McDonald's" with "McDougall's"? Sounds like you are doing wonderfully! Lani Lani Muelrath, M.A. CGFI, CPBN
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| LaniMuelrath
Location: California Posts: 561 |
RE: protein powders Posted Friday, September 24, 2010 at 1:49 PM summerleigh wrote: Thanks so much Lani ! It is incredibly helpful and appreciated ! My pleasure Summerleigh! Lani Lani Muelrath, M.A. CGFI, CPBN
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| summerleigh
Joined: 09/23/10 Posts: 55 |
RE: protein powders Posted Friday, September 24, 2010 at 2:54 PM Hi Lani, One more thing. Part of the reason I get so confused is that a trainer at my gym told me that you need to eat the same amount of protein grams as your ideal weight. For example a 145 lb. woman needs 145 grams of protein per day to be healthy and to be able to do cardio and build muscle and feel good !! See the probelm ?? Thanks..... |
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| mollyhorn
Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 582 |
RE: protein powders Posted Friday, September 24, 2010 at 2:54 PM Haha, Summerleigh... Molly Horn |
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| summerleigh
Joined: 09/23/10 Posts: 55 |
RE: protein powders Posted Friday, September 24, 2010 at 2:58 PM good point.. I really need to stop listening to all the opinions out there !! |
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| LaniMuelrath
Location: California Posts: 561 |
RE: protein powders Posted Friday, September 24, 2010 at 4:33 PM summerleigh wrote: Hi Lani, One more thing. Part of the reason I get so confused is that a trainer at my gym told me that you need to eat the same amount of protein grams as your ideal weight. For example a 145 lb. woman needs 145 grams of protein per day to be healthy and to be able to do cardio and build muscle and feel good !! See the probelm ?? Thanks..... Summerleigh, I know! This kind of thing is rampant. And one person refers to what they read somewhere or heard from somewhere else, which that person heard from somewhere - it ends up becoming folklore unfounded in practical science. Dangerous stuff. As a matter of fact, it is the very kind of thing that inspired the birth of my blog which I called "The Truth About Fat Loss" because I'd had it to HERE with getting emails about which fat-burning food to eat, etc, etc, etc. The best fat-burning food is calorie density that allows you to eat your fill while reducing your caloric load - which you can do with the guidelines you learn right here. It's long been a musclehead rule-of-thumb to eat your weight in grams of protein. Even more specifically, to eat your lean weight in protein grams. But this is untested as far as I know in research. It's based on eat muscle to make muscle. Archaic. (Pardon the sarcasm!) Lani Lani Muelrath, M.A. CGFI, CPBN
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| Kira
Joined: 09/22/10 Posts: 9 |
RE: protein powders Posted Friday, September 24, 2010 at 11:32 PM The protein "myth" has frustrated me over the years, I was my own guinea pig for a long time. In the end, I simply stopped worrying about it, and I rarely eat soy products these days, mostly veggies, grains, fruit. So here it is for what its worth - I eat on average 25g of protein a day - for the last 10 yrs. I am 145lbs 5'9". I'm in decent shape but not skinny by any means. I can also run 13 miles without much effort (I'm slow but that's not because of the protein :lol I can't tell you how many people over the years have told me that I am "making myself sick". And yet these folks couldn't run a mile, and on a sadder note had serious health problems. Don't worry about your protein, I'm no expert but I think my experience has some merit. And I have a great head of hair so the protein is coming from somewhere! Best, Kira |
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| summerleigh
Joined: 09/23/10 Posts: 55 |
RE: protein powders Posted Saturday, September 25, 2010 at 12:09 AM Thank you Kira. It really helps to hear that !! And very impressive !! Like you, I am really going to try to just not think about protein anymore. I am always looking at my plate and thinking oh no I don't have any or enought protein. It's exhausting!! |
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| mollyhorn
Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 582 |
RE: protein powders Posted Saturday, September 25, 2010 at 12:20 AM Kira, I'd love to hear more about your diet, if you felt inclined to share. I still get stuck in the "carbs are bad" mentality left over from years of dieting, and I get scared to eat too many grains, etc. I end up with 100-120 g protein per day, on average, which is WAY more than I need, as a 5'4" female. If you have time or inclination, please share some of your tips, either here or in a PM. Thank you again for sharing your experience. Molly Horn |
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have very powerfully turned our heads, getting us to seek out all kinds of potions and powders to get what is really very simple to get - our basic protein needs.
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