Forums: January 2010 Kickstart Forum Archive: Guilt over a mistake
Created on: 01/18/10 11:41 AM Views: 2588 Replies: 13
ciaracheyanne Joined: 01/18/10 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 2	Guilt over a mistake Posted Monday, January 18, 2010 at 11:41 AM I thought I was a vegan only to realize a careless mistake. The other night after my brother's wrestling practice we went to OUTBACK. The only thing I knew to order would be the seasonal vegies and a side of mushrooms( I'm still trying to find a tasteful salad dresing other than ranch) Anyway I ordered this and found out that their veggies are drowned in butter and the mushrooms are swimming in beef broth. I am 13 years old and I have rendered the "bad" foods but it is so difficult with almost the rest of your family being meat and unhealthy eaters. I am not tempted the least to consume those treaturous foods but there is never anything healthy in the house(at my mom's that is)I just wanted an answer on what to do with the guilt and i also had popcorn which the movie guy told me was plain no butter or salt which was not true at all but I was starving so I ate it. Other than those two screw ups I have been vegan entirely(for about a week cuz I was a vegiterrean but I wanted to take the next step) Help please.
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veveveveggie Joined: 12/28/09 Posts: 114	RE: Guilt over a mistake Posted Monday, January 18, 2010 at 11:55 AM Congratulations on your vigilance. Please be kind to yourself! If this is something you are into for the long term, you will need to keep learning. You haven't ruined any thing! This isn't a club, veganism is a lifestyle; you are not going to get kicked out. Best wishes and good health to you! Jean
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Wild4Stars Joined: 12/27/09 Location: Florida Posts: 832	RE: Guilt over a mistake Posted Monday, January 18, 2010 at 12:00 PM ciaracheyanne: Borrow my motto and try it on for size, if you like it, feel free to keep it as your own. "My path is one of progress not perfection." All we can do is learn from our mistakes and do better tomorrow. It sounds like you have a very firm commitment. You're going to do just fine! Vikki ~ Wild4Stars@gmail.com
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shanna Joined: 12/30/09 Posts: 287	RE: Guilt over a mistake Posted Monday, January 18, 2010 at 12:05 PM Oh, don't feel guilty! We all make mistakes, especially in the beginning. Now you know what to ask when you go out. Just count it as a learning opportunity and keep going! I think most movie popcorn with "butter flavor" is actually vegan. Not necessarily good for you but more likely vegetable oil than dairy. You might be interested in this book by Claire Askew, a teen's guide to being vegan. It's called Generation V. Maybe your library has it or can order it for you if not. You can also find an interview with her on the Vegan Freaks podcast, available via iTunes. Good luck!
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Harmonicgogiberry Joined: 01/01/10 Posts: 47	RE: Guilt over a mistake Posted Monday, January 18, 2010 at 12:13 PM Wow, you are an impressive young woman! Yes, I would give the same advice: be gentle with yourself! Live by your principles and be proud of yourself for being so knowledgeable and dedicated to your beliefs. Have you had a good talk with your mom about how important this lifestyle is to you? Maybe show her this kickstart site? She wants you to be healthy and happy, too. Ask her to shop for the basic ingredients of a vegan diet- better yet, shop with her. You may be surprised at what she can learn from you! If eating out with the family, don't be afraid to say to the waiter: "I'd like the mushrooms, but could you please ask them to use a vegetable stock for cooking?" I've found that most anywhere offers some vegan choices or will accomodate to make something creative for you. And who wouldn't eat that popcorn? We're only human, after all! I suppose you could have brought it back out, but I'd have done exactly what you did. Hope you enjoyed it!
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shanna Joined: 12/30/09 Posts: 287	RE: Guilt over a mistake Posted Monday, January 18, 2010 at 12:15 PM In fact I'd be happy to send you the book if you are interested in it and can't find a copy.
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ciaracheyanne Joined: 01/18/10 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 2	RE: Guilt over a mistake Posted Monday, January 18, 2010 at 12:16 PM Thnx guys I am usually hard and strict on myself in everthing I do but thanks for the support. I appriciate the advice and I hope you guys tell ur friends cuz the people need to hear how benificial and honestly good this way of eating and view is to their heppiness and health. Keep Strong.
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klmchan Joined: 12/29/09 Posts: 24	RE: Guilt over a mistake Posted Monday, January 18, 2010 at 12:35 PM I didn't even know what Outback was until I went there with co-workers. Boy, was I surprised to have my veggies brought to me "drowned in butter," as you say, and my sweet potato stuffed with butter and brown sugar. So, OK, you and I both learned something. I pretty much had to eat it, then, to not make a big scene. This is a journey we're on. Have courage, and do what you can, each day.
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shanna Joined: 12/30/09 Posts: 287	RE: Guilt over a mistake Posted Monday, January 18, 2010 at 2:15 PM Here is the podcast with the interview with Claire Askew about the challenges of being a teen vegan. http://veganfreakradio.com/index.php?id=153 Be warned that the Vegan Freaks sometimes use high-sodium language. More info on the book is here: http://tofuhoundpress.com/titles/titles.html
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txgirl Joined: 01/04/10 Location: Pasadena, TX Posts: 82	RE: Guilt over a mistake Posted Monday, January 18, 2010 at 2:47 PM Ciara - Almost every vegetarian has to deal with these awkward restaurant situation at some point or another. (It's more awkward when it's a host-guest situation) There's just so many things to watch out for - bacon in beans, broth in anything, oyster sauce at Chinese restaurants, Fish sauce at Vietnamese restaurants... and trying to remember which Mexican restaurants put lard in their beans vs. chicken base in their rice is a huge challenge. As time goes by, you will get better at knowing which questions to ask where. The only place I ever ask, "What's vegetarian?" is at Indian restaurants, because I know their culture has the same definition of vegetarian as I do. (OK, so they do use a lot of ghee, but I'm picking my battles here.) I've been served chicken and shrimp in "vegetarian dishes" so many times it's ridiculous. Some people think I can't place an order without asking a ton of questions or making lots of special requests. Really it comes down to deciding what you can occasionally overlook and then choosing your battles. Personally, I worry about ingredients that result from death (meat, lard, stock, etc) way more than I do about accidentally consuming some egg or dairy. As for your mom, does she keep/use a grocery list? If not, you might be able to talk her into getting one of those notepads that stick to the fridge. My son and I have completely different diets and I WISH he bothered to write stuff on the list more often. (He's making progress.)
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shanna Joined: 12/30/09 Posts: 287	RE: Guilt over a mistake Posted Monday, January 18, 2010 at 2:54 PM Since at 13 you probably don't often get to choose where your family goes to eat, these links might also be helpful. You can print out the lists to keep in your pocket or purse. http://www.vegcooking.com/diningOut.asp They even have a list of chain restaurants and which menu items are vegan: http://www.vegcooking.com/ChainRestaurants.asp And the fast food list: http://www.vegcooking.com/VegFastFood.asp And even Outback Steakhouse has answered this question for others: http://www.veganeatingout.com/eoutbacksteakhouse.html
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serenevannoy Joined: 12/28/09 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 294	RE: Guilt over a mistake Posted Monday, January 18, 2010 at 3:42 PM ciaracheyanne, you're doing great! I went veg when I was 16, and I know how hard it can be when your family's not on board. Keep on trucking, and in a few years, you'll be out on your own and choosing your own foods. For now, though, don't hate yourself if you would rather eat animal products than go hungry -- I think most of us here would, too, and it's SO admirable (!) that you're doing this for yourself, for the animals, and for the planet. Serene Vannoy, Oakland, CA -- My daily Kickstart blog: http://serenecooking.livejournal.com/tag/kickstart
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Wild4Stars Joined: 12/27/09 Location: Florida Posts: 832	RE: Guilt over a mistake Posted Monday, January 18, 2010 at 4:26 PM Shanna - Thanks for all the great links. Vikki ~ Wild4Stars@gmail.com
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shanna Joined: 12/30/09 Posts: 287	RE: Guilt over a mistake Posted Monday, January 18, 2010 at 5:00 PM De nada!
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