celtnut
Joined: 01/01/11
Location: Virginia
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Gluten free vegan
Posted Saturday, January 1, 2011 at 8:07 PM
Is there any other Gluten Free Vegans out there? How do you substitute for things like bread?
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peasandrice
Joined: 12/29/10
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RE: Gluten free vegan
Posted Saturday, January 1, 2011 at 8:27 PM
I'm not currently gluten free, but was on a gluten free vegan diet for a year, what worked for me was to make my own bread/muffins etc. After a lot of experimentation, my favorite (and the cheapest) brand of mix was "Fearn Brown Rice Baking Mix" I bought it in bulk off Amazon.com. You can usually find it in smaller amounts at a health food store. It can be used for just about anything, tortillas, cakes, pancakes, bread, etc. To substitute for eggs I would use Psyllium Husk Powder as a binder, other wise things tended to fall apart. Xanath gum also works, but I thought it made things a little "gummy" but that could have just been me. I used about 1 tbsp psyllium to substitute for 2 eggs. Then to make recipes fluffy with out eggs, I would also add 1 tsp baking soda to the dry ingredients and 1 tbsp apple cider vinegar to the liquid ingredients, it was important to mix right before putting it in the oven, because the batter/dough will fall flat again after a while. Other than that I just made a lot of meals with brown rice instead of bread. Indian cuisine is really easy to convert to gluten free and vegan. I hope some of this is helpful and not just a reiteration of things you already know.
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cch22
Joined: 09/08/10
Location: New York State
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RE: Gluten free vegan
Posted Sunday, January 2, 2011 at 8:48 AM
humm.. i am not familar w/gluten free.. but can't you just substitute "bad" flour for good flour? Last night i made Cornbread Muffins.. 2 cups cornmeal 2 cups oatbran 4 tsp baking powder 3 TBSP organic sugar (optional) 3/4 cup applesauce 3/4 cup lowfat soy milk 1/2 cup water or to right texture mix dry ingred. in one bowl, mix wet ingred in another bowl. add wet to dry till combined.. don't overmix. bake at 350 till done They come out dense.. but tasty. I am thinking about putting in honey in the place of organic sugar.. mom used to put it in breads... she said they were more moist and didn't go bad very fast..
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cch22
Joined: 09/08/10
Location: New York State
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RE: Gluten free vegan--Choc Cake
Posted Sunday, January 2, 2011 at 8:57 AM
The cornbread idea came off this recipe... My husband says it is the BEST chocolate cake EVER. Also took it to Christmas dinner and everyone liked it.. Vegan Low Fat Chocolate Applesauce Cake 2 cups flour (i use unbleached.. i suppose you could use oat?) 1 cup organic sugar 1 TBSP Cornstarch (i have considered substituting arrowroot) 3 tsp baking soda 1/4 tsp salt 1/3 cup cocoa (i use hersheys special dark cocoa) 2 cups unsweetened applesauce 1 tsp vanilla preheat oven to 325 grease & flour pans (a reg cake pan or 2- 9inch rounds will do) Note: because this cake is heavy layering is not recommended mix all dry ingredients together in a large bowl. add applesauce & vanilla; mix until smooth bake about 30 min or till done. You can always tell by sticking a toothpick in the center.. if it comes out clean.. it's done. partial recipe from vegetarian.about.com
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celtnut
Joined: 01/01/11
Location: Virginia
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RE: Gluten free vegan
Posted Sunday, January 2, 2011 at 2:09 PM
Thanks for the tips. For those not in the know Gluten free is no wheat, rye, barley, or regular oats(only special grown). I have Celiac Disease were the gluten attacks the intestines so I am stuck and will have to stay on the Gluten Free diet forever. I have been trying to be vegan for a while but when out and the choice is with or without gluten I have to pick Gluten Free weather vegan or not. I sure wish that people would realize we are out here. Gluten Free is meat and more meat and vegan is wheat city. HELP!
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celtnut
Joined: 01/01/11
Location: Virginia
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RE: Gluten free vegan
Posted Sunday, January 2, 2011 at 2:09 PM
Thanks for the tips. For those not in the know Gluten free is no wheat, rye, barley, or regular oats(only special grown). I have Celiac Disease were the gluten attacks the intestines so I am stuck and will have to stay on the Gluten Free diet forever. I have been trying to be vegan for a while but when out and the choice is with or without gluten I have to pick Gluten Free weather vegan or not. I sure wish that people would realize we are out here. Gluten Free is meat and more meat and vegan is wheat city. HELP! 
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BlondRenee
Joined: 02/28/10
Location: California
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RE: Gluten free vegan
Posted Sunday, January 2, 2011 at 4:03 PM
celtnut welcome. I am vegan and gluten free. I have had all the testing (not the biopsy) but have not heard back from the doctor. I just feel and do better without gluten it seems. So if the test come back positive or negative, I don't think I can go back to gluten. I get so sick. To answer your question I get bread from my health food store. All gluten free of course. I have tried to make my own breads and things, and I have only found one flour mix that I like and doesn't have that grainy cardboard texture and taste. Bob's Red Mill is ok too. I make a lot of soups, I found rice pasta that is good. Traders Joe's carry it. There are a lot of online stores that have all gluten free products. I try to follow the plan but I have to substitute some too. I made a root soup that is my own recipe (yum), some vegan potato salad (I was hungry for it) and beans and greens. (which I like a lot) Eating fruits and veggie is so healthy and easy to come by. If you need any help and I can help let me know please. Good luck, we are all here for you and your successful journey. Renee' 
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marigoldmind
Joined: 01/01/10
Location: Washington, DC
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RE: Gluten free vegan
Posted Monday, January 3, 2011 at 1:32 PM
Hey celtnut, I'm a gluten-free (celiac) vegan. I have been GF for 5 years and fully vegan for the past year. I was vegetarian before that. I also can't consume corn although it thankfully only an intolerance. I am a very reactive celiac, so I sympathize with needing to be very careful. I don't really use any kind of bread. I found that most breads still made me feel ill or just tasted bad. I have a tiny kitchen and am not interested in making my own bread at this time in my life. I have heard good things about that from others, so I may try it in the future. The one exception is a kind of frozen English muffin that is GF and vegan and tastes good. It is by the company Food for Life: http://www.foodforlife.com/product-catalog/gluten-free-wheat-free-breads/gluten-free/wheat-and-gluten-free-brown-rice-english I have found them in all of the Whole Foods in the DC area. If you can't find them in a local store, you might try asking them to stock them. I have found stores to be more open to stocking items specifically because I request them than I would have expected. I toast the English Muffins and eat them with either fresh collards and parsley (sometimes with hummus, sometimes without) or with something sweet like a pumpkin butter. I don't have trouble eating enough or finding vegan options. I was intimidated to commit to a vegan diet and life because I simply cannot budge on the GF front. I soon realized that I don't want to budge on the vegan front either. Both are important to my life in different ways. I am happy to offer advice for different situations, but I'm not sure where you struggle the most right now. Following recipes? grocery shopping? restaurants? navigating social situations? For cooking for myself, I cook pretty simple meals with just GF grains, legumes, and vegetables. I eat a lot of rice - brown, red, and black. I also eat quinoa and GF oats. I love the Tinkyada brown rice pasta - http://www.tinkyada.com/. In addition to the recipes that you will find through the Kickstart, the Happy Herbivore recipes are all vegan and she has them tagged now to make it easier to find the GF ones - http://happyherbivore.com/recipes/ Have you been living GF very long? Some of my advice is different for people who feel like their gut has healed or if they still have unexplained digestive problems.
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presentcrisis
Joined: 01/03/11
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RE: Gluten free vegan
Posted Monday, January 3, 2011 at 1:48 PM
I have been a vegan for 5 years and about a year ago I figured out that my stomach ailments were caused by gluten. I have not been tested for celiac but I have been tested for gluten intolerance and have been diagnosed with that. I sometimes purchase the english muffins from food for life that were mentioned on here as a treat, they are delicious and taste like real english muffins! I also sometimes purchase the food for life brand brown rice almond bread. It's not identical to "real" bread but it does alright when I really crave something bread like. The Bob's Red Mill GF mixes are great. Just simply use vegan replacements if the recipe on the bag calls for dairy or eggs. There's a cinnamon raisin bread mix by them that I like if you like sweet breads. Eating out is hard as a GF vegan. I don't have many suggestions unless you live in an area with any raw restaurants or vegan/veg restaurants willing to accommodate your GF needs. I live in a small town so it's hard for me to find anything GF, much less vegan. This is something I've eventually gotten over because being healthy and vegan is most important to me and I'm okay with eating a salad when out with friends.
For whatever we lose (like a you or a me) it's always ourselves we find in the sea
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marigoldmind
Joined: 01/01/10
Location: Washington, DC
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RE: Gluten free vegan
Posted Monday, January 3, 2011 at 2:10 PM
presentcrisis wrote: Eating out is hard as a GF vegan. I don't have many suggestions unless you live in an area with any raw restaurants or vegan/veg restaurants willing to accommodate your GF needs. I live in a small town so it's hard for me to find anything GF, much less vegan. This is something I've eventually gotten over because being healthy and vegan is most important to me and I'm okay with eating a salad when out with friends.
Do you have Indian, Thai, Japanese, Chinese, or Middle Eastern restaurants in your area? I have developed connections with servers at a lot of restaurants in my area, so I can eat out pretty easily. I do live in DC though, so I realize my options are different than what other people might experience. In our area, we have a Yahoo Group for celiacs that also has a restaurant database. It is very helpful for finding new places to eat. I used to be very wary of mentioning my food concerns to servers, but I have gotten better about it over the years. I generally pick cuisines that are simpler to make GF or already have GF options to minimize the risks. Basically, I have learned certain dishes that are going to be safe almost anywhere (Aloo Ghobi at Indian, asparagus and cucumber rolls at a sushi place) and do a LOT of prep work figuring out where to eat. My lifestyle is such that I'm more often to be eating out in a restaurant with friends than to be eating in someone's home, so not being able to eat out was really socially isolating. I know so many good restaurants that my friends have always been very cool with letting me pick where we eat.
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celtnut
Joined: 01/01/11
Location: Virginia
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RE: Gluten free vegan
Posted Tuesday, January 4, 2011 at 6:19 PM
I live in Tidewater Va.( Southeastern corner). it is a area of little towns but with the military it has lots of ethnic places to eat. I find that a lot of the small Chinese places in shopping centers have tofu and can make some of the regular meals with that if you ask. Soy Sauce is usually not a problem because they, unlike American eateries, use the cheep sauce in the back and sometimes in those little packages with uses a different starter. Thai food is gluten free for the most part. Any product from there usually is Gluten free unless they are trying to Americanize it. Some even have tofu on the menu. Of course Indian but other places usually think meat for Celiac and pasta for vegan( leave off the cheese)
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marigoldmind
Joined: 01/01/10
Location: Washington, DC
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RE: Gluten free vegan
Posted Wednesday, January 5, 2011 at 12:03 PM
celtnut wrote: I live in Tidewater Va.( Southeastern corner). it is a area of little towns but with the military it has lots of ethnic places to eat. I find that a lot of the small Chinese places in shopping centers have tofu and can make some of the regular meals with that if you ask. Soy Sauce is usually not a problem because they, unlike American eateries, use the cheep sauce in the back and sometimes in those little packages with uses a different starter. Thai food is gluten free for the most part. Any product from there usually is Gluten free unless they are trying to Americanize it. Some even have tofu on the menu. Of course Indian but other places usually think meat for Celiac and pasta for vegan( leave off the cheese) Many Chinese restaurants in the DC area were claiming that their soy sauce was GF but a native Chinese speaker read the labels and they all included wheat as an ingredient. Given the health risk from ingesting gluten, I won't take that chance, especially if there is a language barrier between me and the server. With Thai food, you need to specify that you want a vegan meal with no animal ingredients and specifically mention fish sauce and oyster sauce. Fish/oyster sauces are of course not vegan, but they also often contains gluten. I say all of this not to discourage you but to give you the power to ask questions so you can have a healthy and tasty meal. I find that I get much better service now, and I think a lot of it is how I work with my server to figure out what I can eat that works for me. If they seem scared or confused, I will ask to talk to someone from the kitchen. That seems like it would come off as rude, but I usually phrase it as "maybe I could talk to someone from the kitchen who could advise me?" and they appreciate being off the hook  I have the best experiences going to small restaurants rather than chains. I think the staff have more invested in where they work at many small restaurants. Have you tried the triumph dining cards? I used a dining card when I was in Germany on a vacation, but I have never tried one in the US. I have heard good stories though.
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