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| dcharmony
Joined: 09/07/11 Posts: 2 |
Feeling nauseous and tired Posted Wednesday, September 7, 2011 at 6:57 PM I've been doing the kickstart with my own recipes and suddenly today I feel nauseous and very tired (a short nap turned into over three hours). I'm also sniffly so it could be a bug. I used to live on a lot of microwave dinners, sweets, steamed veggies with lots of cheese and takeout. I haven't given up sweets, but it's harder to find vegan ones so I've cut down dramatically, and am generally substituting with fruit. I'm getting enough protein, and I'm drinking lots of water. Is this just detox? |
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| Susan Levin
Joined: 12/26/09 Posts: 1188 |
RE: Feeling nauseous and tired Posted Wednesday, September 7, 2011 at 7:00 PM This sounds very familiar to other people's stories when they adopt a super healthful diet. You will emerge feeling better than you could have imagined. Hang in there while your body adjusts to the new, healthier you. Susan Levin, MS, RD |
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| dcharmony
Joined: 09/07/11 Posts: 2 |
RE: Feeling nauseous and tired Posted Wednesday, September 7, 2011 at 7:18 PM It's the nausea that's getting to me. Any ideas? |
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| natcristo
Posts: 46 |
RE: Feeling nauseous and tired Posted Wednesday, September 7, 2011 at 7:20 PM I am going through the same thing! tired and nauseaus and soooo bloated and gassy (TMI) ...for the nauseau I find green tea helps..or ginger green tea...I feel so heavy and gross.... Natasha |
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mollyhorn
 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 582 |
RE: Feeling nauseous and tired Posted Wednesday, September 7, 2011 at 7:28 PM It can be helpful to ease into the fiber consumption for those who are not used to eating so much of it. That's what's causing the bloat, gas, etc. You may want to scale back for a couple of days. For example, tomorrow night's dinner is suggested to include kale, which is very fibrous. You could instead have green beans or green peas, something less fibrous that would be easier to digest. If you're following the menu plan exactly, you're in luck that the next few days feature less-fibrous meals... much easier on the digestion. One thing that can also help is Beano, taken just before eating. It is an enzyme that helps with gas, and can get you through these first few weeks of the transition. Believe me, once you've made it through this, you'll be so glad you did! Molly Horn |
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| Bugsmom
Joined: 09/13/10 Posts: 2068 |
RE: Feeling nauseous and tired Posted Thursday, September 8, 2011 at 8:30 AM Ginger is a good one for nausea, also peppermint or chamomile tea as well (the ones that are just whatever herb and no actual "tea", which contains caffeine and can exacerbate tummy discomfort for some). Definitely take it easy on the fiber if you're feeling uncomfortable, especially the beans. Also, sometimes the green leafies (lettuces and the like) can lead to gassy feelings. Maybe, for a few days, instead of leafies AND beans in the same meal, alternate things - some nice leaf lettuce at lunch and beans/lentils at dinner but not beans/lentils AND salad at dinner. Make sure there's some fruit in there, but temporarily skip apples (they can also sometimes lead to a full or bloated feeling for some people). And, for sure, avoid iceberg lettuce - even being used to the fiber in the kickstart plan, iceberg still gives me stomach discomfort, it's mostly just cellulose and water. Go for things that are actually DARK green (romaine, leaf lettuce, kale, etc). --Deb R |
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cch22
 Location: New York State Posts: 999 |
RE: Feeling nauseous and tired Posted Thursday, September 8, 2011 at 11:00 AM Need a bit more information. You said you are doing this with your own recipes? What are you eating? How much water are you drinking? ARe you taking vitamins? |
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| Bugsmom
Joined: 09/13/10 Posts: 2068 |
RE: Feeling nauseous and tired Posted Thursday, September 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM natcristo wrote: I am going through the same thing! tired and nauseaus and soooo bloated and gassy (TMI) ...for the nauseau I find green tea helps..or ginger green tea...I feel so heavy and gross....  Make sure you're getting plenty of fruit and greens and not totally falling back on grains and beans. Even after about a year (this is kickstart #4 for me), if I fall back onto lots of grains, even good whole grains, and skimp on the veg, I start feeling that heavy, full feeling. A couple of good big veg-full meals (chard, kale, leaf lettuce, spinach, plus tomatoes, squash, and such) plus some fresh (not dried) fruit, and it works itself out. The other thing I need to watch is nuts - they're a handy, portable, vegan, snack (but not low fat) and on occasion I start grabbing them on the go and again, that leads to the full heavy feeling. Greens and fruit clear it back up again. --Deb R |
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sis11
 Posts: 30 |
RE: Feeling nauseous and tired Posted Thursday, September 8, 2011 at 1:01 PM Lots of people have good feedback on possible causes. I don't know if this is any use as an addition, but sometimes cutting way back on calories can make you feel nauseous, if the amounts are too limited? Are you eating super-low-calorie? Even on the kickstart, I add some nuts or other protein/fat to the snacks. Though I've been vegan for two years, if I were accurately following the menus, I'd be starving, sick, and crabby. I admire anyone who can eat this little food (and if this is someone's introduction to plant-based food, at least one hasn't had a chance to develop an addiction to cashew cheezcakes or tofu ricotta lasagna with pine nut cream...on the other hand, I wonder if someone would know just how great vegan food can be?) In any case, I appreciate the Kickstart! Being part of this is inspiring me to do better on fats. I use half a teaspoon of oil sometimes when cooking (but am trying many of my recipes with no oil at all). I've noticed just how often I'm eating baked goods (even whole grain, agave sweetened baked goods add up). And when I eat out, I stay away from the fried things or Thai noodles. So we'll see if that makes a difference. Also, for those who don't want any animal products at all, there are alternatives for vitamins and enzymes. Beano is mostly made of fish, but there's a great product call V-Gest or Gastro, made by Enzymedica (not cheap! but you need less of it as you go on) and Deva vitamins make excellent Vegan Omega-3 DHA and Multivitamin and mineral supplement (with iron and B-12, etc.) I do feel sad when I look at the menus and know I just can't eat that little (which is why I don't look the way a vegan is supposed to look...) Today's seems to have about a thousand calories, unless you load up, a lot, on the grains. Surely that can't be right? Does anyone else have this trouble? Sarah |
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| mollyhorn
Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 582 |
RE: Feeling nauseous and tired Posted Thursday, September 8, 2011 at 1:12 PM sis11 wrote: I do feel sad when I look at the menus and know I just can't eat that little (which is why I don't look the way a vegan is supposed to look...) Today's seems to have about a thousand calories, unless you load up, a lot, on the grains. Surely that can't be right? Does anyone else have this trouble? I know just what you mean. I added it up to about 900 based on my own choices in cereal, etc., and I know I'd eat more than that. :\ Molly Horn |
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| Bugsmom
Joined: 09/13/10 Posts: 2068 |
RE: Feeling nauseous and tired Posted Thursday, September 8, 2011 at 1:12 PM It's not about calories - you eat until you feel full/satisfied. A meal of steamed or braised kale and quinoa chickpea pilaf is enough calories for me, for my 13 yr old son, for my 300 lb hubby - we just each eat a different amount of it. If we're still hungry, we'll add a salad, some fruit, a bowl of cereal later on, whatever works. --Deb R |
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| vegangirl65
Joined: 08/31/11 Posts: 110 |
RE: Feeling nauseous and tired Posted Thursday, September 8, 2011 at 1:22 PM sis11: I get what you are saying. I have a couple different ways I think about this. Before the kickstart, I was off track, eating a lot of simple carby stuff. home made vegan cookies from my local vegan store (the kind that if you set them on the paper towel they leave an oil stain). They are almost the size of a corn tortilla. My go to off track, junky food is italian bread, cookies (even though they are vegan), any simple carb/sugary stuff. SO, when the kickstart came about I wanted to get back on track, lost those last stubborn 10 lbs I have regained and lost at least 50 times. So on the first day, I ate very reasonable amounts, eg. beans and rice with onions and peppers and salsa. It was probably about 1-1/2 to 2 cups total with teh onions and peppers if that. Lunch was confetti salad green beans and grapes and the portion was about a cup, maybe a tiny bit more. Dinner was corn/tomato salad about 1 cup, kale and onions and lentil vegetable curry about a cup. and cherries for snack. Normally I would eat more then this, but I found I was satisfied. I feel it's amazing how much less food I could eat and still be satisfied. But as the kickstart goes on I eat and am full but I do get hungry so I do eat more. I can do very well for a long time and then I don't know if it's the fact that I'm restricting the sweet stuff or just that I need more food, but I end up going off and back to those darn simple/sweet carbs. I guess maybe I need more calories or just need to allow a healthy treat once in a while, one without oil which I do make but I can't usually stop at just one!!! (Engine2diet cookies) So, not sure if this makes sense to anyone, but that's my story... So I guess if anyone wants to comment or goes through the same thing, let me know!! I do exercise pretty much everyday by either running 3 miles or doing boot camp and/or other exercises at the gym. So I'm active and maybe burning more.. Thanks for listing to my babbling!!! Kathy |
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| sis11
Posts: 30 |
RE: Feeling nauseous and tired Posted Thursday, September 8, 2011 at 1:44 PM Thanks for the great, smart support. It helps a lot. I'm sorry for whining -- to put this down on the forums helps me figure out where my own resistance is, and maybe to stay on track instead of giving up and diving back into my plant-based but way too rich and treat-filled way of eating. Some of the day's menus really do seem skimpy. For today, for example: Breakfast: Cereal with plant milk and fresh or frozen berries Lunch: Vegan cup of soup with whole grain bread Snack: Carrots and apple Dinner: Kickstart DIY: couscous, lentil, and kale Breakfast looks great. Dinner looks great. It's lunch and snack that are the problem. (Plus, where are those tortilla-sized health food cookies -- those are the ones I eat too, Kathy!) I'm glad to know other people are following this with variations for more food as needed. Makes me feel less like a failure javascript:addSmiley(' thanks, Sarah |
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| vegangirl65
Joined: 08/31/11 Posts: 110 |
RE: Feeling nauseous and tired Posted Thursday, September 8, 2011 at 1:57 PM Sarah: Lunch would have me hungry. Unless I had 3 or 4 slices of bread!! But that's not a good idea!!! Even breakfast, if I ate the small portion of cereal usually 1/2 to 3/4 cup, I'd be hungry soon after. I would load on the berries though. My breakfast was a half butternut squash (it was a small one) filled with apple, celery, onion stuffing and green beans and kale. It was filling. Usually my snacks are fruit, grapes and usually at least a cup or even more. My lunch today was beans and rise with some left over onions and peppers from fajitas. It was about a 1/2 cup of rice and maybe 3/4 cup of beans. I have always been a volume eater so this way is good loading up on the vegies. but sometimes I still have cravings for "something" Not sure what it is or is it just my "habit" of eating baked goods (comes from way back in my childhood) I'm trying to relearn eating to satisfaction and having some built in "treats" that don't make me feel guilty. (too many years of dieting--gotta relearn everything). So I guess bottom line is eat enough plant based whole foods to be full and satisfied but not stuffed. work in some "healthy" treats without fats or guilt and learn to eat to live not live to eat!!! Kathy |
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| Bugsmom
Joined: 09/13/10 Posts: 2068 |
RE: Feeling nauseous and tired Posted Thursday, September 8, 2011 at 2:33 PM sis11 wrote: Lunch: Vegan cup of soup with whole grain bread Snack: Carrots and apple Breakfast looks great. Dinner looks great. It's lunch and snack that are the problem. A cup of soup PLUS a slice of bread PLUS an apple or some carrots would be filling - and pick a vegan soup that's loaded with stuff like beans, carrots, corn, maybe even something where it's a bit creamy (if you make the soup yourself, you can take out some of the soup, puree it, then add it back in to make the soup thick and creamy without adding fat or cream - hubby made an awesome potato broccoli vegan soup that way; we also have a great vegan corn mushroom chowder recipe that uses the corn milk (pureed cooked corn) to thicken it). Then have the other (Carrot or apple) later on. There's no rule that says the snacks have to be several hours later. Or, for that matter, that you can't add a salad (a mix of leafy greens is never off limits - just skip the fatty dressings). Or, have another half cup of soup or have two small slices of bread instead of one large slice. Adjust the portions to what your lifestyle and body need. What my growing 13 yr old needs is very different than what my sedentary 50 yr old self needs. Yet we each can live comfortably on the foods in the kickstart (even though we might rearrange which day we have a particular item on - we might have the soup and bread for lunch on a different day than the DIY kale etc) --Deb R |
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JamieR
 Location: Mendocino Coast, Northern California Posts: 116 |
RE: Feeling nauseous and tired Posted Friday, September 9, 2011 at 5:58 AM From the main 21-Day Meal Plan link above...
Serving Sizes: Don’t worry too much about the serving sizes of beans, grains, fruits, and vegetables. Thanks to the fiber and low-fat content, you would be hard-pressed to consume more calories than you need from these four food groups. (Exceptions include avocados, olives, etc.) You are not a failure or cheating if you eat more than the stated serving size! If you listen to your body and satisfy it with wholesome vegan food...you're doing it right. Free yourself from the diet mentality! I know, if you've spent years dieting, it is hard to let go of measuring, counting....obsessing. Let me tell you...it's lovely on the other side. What I've found is that some days it takes a lot to make me feel satisfied; other days, I barely eat a thing. For instance, 2 days ago, I just had some cereal for breakfast and 2 open-faced tomato sandwiches for dinner. That was it! Today, I needed more to feel satisfied; I had the same breakfast with more fruit, a 2+ cup serving of bean soup for lunch and 3 ears of corn plus 2 cups of soup for dinner. I think it is much more "normal" to eat to satisfaction--which will vary daily--than feel like you must adhere to servings and portions. Your body knows what you need; just listen! September Kickstart Goals: Walk/bike daily, keep up with forum, 100% low-fat vegan experimenting with maximizing FLAVOR!
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| vegangirl65
Joined: 08/31/11 Posts: 110 |
RE: Feeling nauseous and tired Posted Friday, September 9, 2011 at 8:22 AM Free yourself from the diet mentality! I know, if you've spent years dieting, it is hard to let go of measuring, counting....obsessing. Let me tell you...it's lovely on the other side.
Kathy |
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| onlychild1956
Joined: 09/05/11 Posts: 3 |
RE: Feeling nauseous and tired Posted Friday, September 9, 2011 at 8:30 AM The nauseos could easily be all the fiber that your stomach isn't used to. As others have stated it is also the cause of your bloat and gas. It will go away, I promise you. The tired is your body getting rid of all the sugar and junk that it's been getting in cheese and sugar. Jan S |
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| kdub34
Joined: 09/05/11 Posts: 7 |
RE: Feeling nauseous and tired Posted Friday, September 9, 2011 at 4:38 PM I know how you feel...my husband thinks I haven't been perky since I started this kickstart. I have to work on balancing my meals better. |
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| kdub34
Joined: 09/05/11 Posts: 7 |
RE: Feeling nauseous and tired Posted Friday, September 9, 2011 at 4:39 PM I know how you feel...my husband thinks I haven't been perky since I started this kickstart. I have to work on balancing my meals better. |
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