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Created on: 01/19/10 10:29 PM Views: 3207 Replies: 19
Yogurt is not vegan, yet I love it.
Posted Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 10:29 PM

Evening,

Hope my question isn't too basic for those of you who are more experienced with the Vegan diet. I am a new person in this field. My question is: Can someone explain why yogurt is not the right food for those of us who are trying to go Vegan? I know it's not vegan, yet I enjoy the Greek Plain Yogurt from Stonyfield, about twice a week, and when I add in some fresh fruit, so it seems like a nice sweet desert.

Thanks in advance,

EJ

RE: Yogurt is not vegan, yet I love it.
Posted Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 10:35 PM

Because it is derived from milk products. Tried soy yogurt. It is quite good. I believe there is a brand O'soy.

RE: Yogurt is not vegan, yet I love it.
Posted Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 10:35 PM

Because it is derived from milk products. Tried soy yogurt. It is quite good. I believe there is a brand O'soy.

RE: Yogurt is not vegan, yet I love it.
Posted Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 10:48 PM

EJ, I have been vegetarian since 2000, just starting my path to being vegan. Even before being vegetarian, even as a kid, I never cared for milk AT ALL, rarely ate much cheese, but was convinced that yogurt was good for me. Only way I could eat it was buried in fruit or swirled in a smoothie etc. But EVERYONE talked about how good yogurt is for you so I ate it. Then I read "The China Study." I now know that my whole life my body has been telling me, yelling at me, "I DON'T WANT DAIRY FOODS!!"

Yogurt is NOT vegan and it is NOT health promoting. Now, I'm pretty clear that for every piece of evidence I can show you that promotes that theory, someone can come up with evidence that says the opposite. I encourage you, to find out who paid for that evidence. I think if you were to read "The China Study" you would have a different take on ALL dairy foods. I think it should be required reading in Med School, for all dieticians, nutritionists, really just everyone interested in promoting health.

Off my soap box now !!!

Vikki ~ Wild4Stars@gmail.com

RE: Yogurt is not vegan, yet I love it.
Posted Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 10:53 PM

No one can stop you from eating yogurt if it's what you want to eat. But it's not vegan. It's not health-promoting. It causes suffering to cows and illness in people.

Serene Vannoy, Oakland, CA
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My daily Kickstart blog: http://serenecooking.livejournal.com/tag/kickstart

RE: Yogurt is not vegan, yet I love it.
Posted Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 11:02 PM

Serene Vannoy is right too - the suffering it causes animals to create one little cup of yogurt!! Totally not worth it. You're eating that suffering. YUCK

Vikki ~ Wild4Stars@gmail.com

RE: Yogurt is not vegan, yet I love it.
Posted Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 1:36 AM

O'Soy yogurt is NOT vegan. It contains some milk products. Stick with yummy Silk yogurt!

RE: Yogurt is not vegan, yet I love it.
Posted Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 2:26 AM

Like all dairy products, yogurt is chock full of estrogen from pregnant cows. Estrogen promotes breast, ovarian, endometrial, testicular, and prostate cancer. This hormone also makes young girls reach sexual maturity way too fast, sometimes by age 8 or 9. Dairy cows also have their calves ripped away from them hours after birth, and the male calves are slaughtered soon after for veal. When you think about the big picture, yogurt is not all that appealing.

You can still enjoy a creamy sweet treat by substituting any of the numerous brands of soy yogurt. At first you may not like the soy yogurt. It will taste a bit different. Try different brands and flavors. Give yourself 3 weeks to get used to it. After 3 weeks of only soy yogurt and no cows milk yogurt, your tastes will change and you will prefer the soy.

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RE: Yogurt is not vegan, yet I love it.
Posted Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 7:47 AM

SheriInTX wrote:

O'Soy yogurt is NOT vegan. It contains some milk products. Stick with yummy Silk yogurt!

My favorite (vegan) soy yogurt in the U.S. is "Whole Soy & Co." It is also organic!

When I'm in Europe I eat Sojasun, which I like even better than Whole Soy & Co. but can't find in the U.S.

RE: Yogurt is not vegan, yet I love it.
Posted Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 8:18 AM

Osoy packaging says vegan. I got to read it again.

RE: Yogurt is not vegan, yet I love it.
Posted Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 12:26 AM

Going without yogurt was my big concern doing this. I have been eating it once or twice a day for many years. It had become a real comfort food. Going without it has been easier than I thought. Leaving one in my fridge has helped - I know it's there and don't feel deprived or that it's been banned, so I don't crave it.

But I have to say that soy yogurt does not cut it for me! I have bought and thrown out 2 different kinds, as well as chocolate soy pudding. I hate to throw out food but it was not worth forcing myself. I think it's like what someone told me once about helping someone go off drugs (street drugs) - nothing is going to feel as good. But you get a lot more in exchange. Nothing is going to taste as good to me as the yogurt I loved for decades. So I'm just accepting that and not trying to find it in substitutes because there are none, the same way carob isn't chocolate. Maybe it will be a rare treat for me in the future, but for now I am surprisingly okay without it.

Edited 01/21/10 12:28 AM
RE: Yogurt is not vegan, yet I love it.
Posted Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 12:50 AM

When I first tried soy yogurt, I also threw it out. It tasted terrible. Now I love it. If you want to change your tastebuds, try one spoonful of soy yogurt every few days for a month or so. You should start liking it then. Just don't eat the cow's milk stuff during this time or you will interrupt the makeover.

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RE: Yogurt is not vegan, yet I love it.
Posted Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 4:11 AM

There's also new coconut-milk based yogurts available in the market. When choosing dairy-free yogurt, look out for hidden milk ingredients like casein or whey. Avoid yogurt with a ton of sweeteners added in.

RE: Yogurt is not vegan, yet I love it.
Posted Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 6:46 AM

I too love yogurt and have had a hard time giving it up. Can anyone recommend a soy brand, or soy flavor that was really good? I have read the labels on a few and I don't like the high sugar levels in soy yogurt.

(Can't do coconut) TIA

RE: Yogurt is not vegan, yet I love it.
Posted Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 8:07 AM

I think it's interesting how "hooked" on yogurt many young people are now...when I was growing up in the 50's and 60's, the "benefits" of eating yogurt were just being touted and I can remember my Mom trying to get me to eat it instead of sour cream and as a snack. But it was never considered a food we "loved". Now cheese, milkshakes, sour cream, creamy dressings....that was another thing. But I think now because of that "new, valuable information about yogurt" that began back then, and all of the interesting ways they've come up with to make it palatable it's become such a mainstream yummy snack.....when we went vegan, many years ago, the last thing I was sad about giving up was yogurt. Just a funny observation.

RE: Yogurt is not vegan, yet I love it.
Posted Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 1:02 PM

I would also eat a few yogurts a week, but the smoothie that were on the 21-day meal taste like yogurt. You could make those and put them in little jars for later for a yogurt fix. I haven't tried the soy or coconut.

Vegan Pudding recipes to sub for yogurt
Posted Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 1:21 PM

Maybe some vegan puddings would be more to your taste, if you can't find a soy yogurt you like.

Here are a bunch from Fat Free Vegan (which actually collects a bunch of different sources, including Vegetarian Times and the MacDougall Newsletter): http://www.fatfreevegan.com/search/search.pl?Terms=pudding

SusanV (the Fat-Free Vegan blogger) also has her own homemade vegan "greek yogurt" recipe here: http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2007/09/greek-style-soy-yogurt-or-soy-yogurt.html

Edited 02/26/10 7:15 AM
RE: Yogurt is not vegan, yet I love it.
Posted Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 3:21 PM

Anna06 wrote:

I too love yogurt and have had a hard time giving it up. Can anyone recommend a soy brand, or soy flavor that was really good? I have read the labels on a few and I don't like the high sugar levels in soy yogurt.

(Can't do coconut) TIA

Anna, To avoid the sugar and lousy fruit in flavored yogurts, try buying a large tub of plain and add your own fresh fruit. If it needs sweetening, use a little agave nectar. Vanilla and/or cinnamon is nice, too, even without the fruit. If you have to take it to work, get those little plastic or glass storage containers (1 or 2 cup capacity). This method works really well for us.

RE: Yogurt is not vegan, yet I love it.
Posted Monday, January 25, 2010 at 6:52 AM

Thank you, I will try that. I like to add frozen blueberries and ground flax. That is like my dessert. So I hate to give it up totally. Great ideal, thanks again. Very Happy

RE: Yogurt is not vegan, yet I love it.
Posted Monday, January 25, 2010 at 9:14 AM

Dannon yogurt was originally a "health food" because it had the active bacteria. Then other companies made yogurt that didn't contain those bacteria. It got processed out. Now there are yogurts being marketed as special because they put the bacteria back in.

When I need gut bacteria I take a probiotic and have had better luck with that than with yogurt. Plus, I avoid the saturated fats and cholesterol.

Jean


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