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| kiwi
Joined: 01/03/11 Location: New Zealand Posts: 405 |
Mistakes = learning opportunities Posted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 2:52 AM Just wondering if anyone else has messed up by eating something off the list yet or am I the only one? I had a few bites of something that I believed was ok but when checking the ingredients, it had milk in it. Needless to say I did not eat any further. So that was a learning experience - hidden ingredients in the least likely places and read the label first. Had another near miss when I almost purchased a salad for lunch one day but asked what dressing was first. It had fish in it! The dressing was on the prepared salad so it could ask for it on the side. I am ok at home when cooking and preparing meals for myself. I am having lunch at my mothers this coming weekend and have already talked to her about what I am not eating (she knows I am vegetarian but the 'no dairy' part is new) so she is supporting me by having salad. Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food - Hippocrates. |
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| BeansandGreens
Joined: 01/05/11 Posts: 6 |
RE: Mistakes = learning opportunities Posted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 6:14 AM That is part of the process. You see, you learned a great lesson - read the ingrediants. I have had to be a smart consumer when eating out and ask many seemingly stupid questions ( to anyone but a vegan). I recently ate a veggie burger at "BK" and found that when researching it online it has dairy in both the bread and the pattie. FAIL!!! Oh well, now I know. For a fast fix if I am out and about i will get a bean burrito "fresco style" at TB and will eat the middle of it. they will even add lettuce if you ask. This is a process where we learn and challenge ourselves. We are not perfect, but the good news is that you recognised the issue and corrected it. Kudos to your perseverance!!!!! |
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cch22
 Location: New York State Posts: 1000 |
RE: Mistakes = learning opportunities Posted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 7:16 AM yep kiwi.. you are doing good.. milk products, even egg products are in foods you would never think of.. honey bought health food meatballs. He looked at calories & fat..read the big stuff on the package.. He got them by the Amys products.. and by the meat crumbles.. he assumed they were vegan.. only to find they had a small amt of egg white. the good news is pretty soon you will have a few favorites and won't have to read the packages.. |
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| carolward99
Joined: 12/30/10 Location: Bryan, TX Posts: 27 |
RE: Mistakes = learning opportunities Posted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 7:35 AM I lost 10 lbs during the holidays having unhealthy meals, NOT UNHEALTHY DAYS. I make the very best choices I can to remain vegan when I eat out but know I still remain vegetarian. |
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| Susan Levin
Joined: 12/26/09 Posts: 1191 |
RE: Mistakes = learning opportunities Posted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 9:52 AM You said it best - it was a learning experience. That's invaluable! Susan Levin, MS, RD |
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| slowcarr
Joined: 12/27/09 Posts: 33 |
RE: Mistakes = learning opportunities Posted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 10:57 AM The biggest part of my grocery shopping is reading labels. I have found that products I buy all the time I still have to read the ingredients list. Manufacturers are always "improving their product". Ha ha. I have noticed this usually means they added something that makes it non vegan. A few years back Total cereal added milk to give it more calcium. I have found that when dining out I have to ask what was the rice cooked in. Other than Chinese most use chicken stock. Veggie burgers almost always contain at least egg white. So you really have to ask every time about how the item was made. |
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| Dobby
Joined: 09/04/10 Posts: 113 |
RE: Mistakes = learning opportunities Posted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 11:13 AM Well, I didn't know that about veggie burgers! I sometimes have one from the grill at work, so will have to ask the dietician in charge of the kitchen for an ingredient breakdown! I was eating what I thought was a vegan frozen dinner last night, an Amy's product and oops, it had milk in the ingedient list. Pam |
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| Bugsmom
Joined: 09/13/10 Posts: 2072 |
RE: Mistakes = learning opportunities Posted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 11:15 AM and a lot of things have 'milk powder' as an ingredient - many chocolate chips and even carob chips have milk powder in them. Another 'sneaky' one is casein - many "vegetarian" cheese substitutes (soy, rice, etc) still have casein which is a milk protein. Time to learn lots of new words to look for (or look out for!) --Deb R |
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mollyhorn
 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 582 |
RE: Mistakes = learning opportunities Posted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 1:16 PM I think it's important not to get caught up in being "The Perfect Vegan." We're all doing this for various reasons, but if you spend too much time focusing on the minutiae, you lose sight of the reason you became vegan in the first place. It becomes a chore rather than something you enjoy, and you're more likely to quit doing it because it's just too much of a hassle. So, take it easy on yourself and just do the best you can, especially in the beginning. We're all learning, and this is just one step in the journey. The guys at Vegan Outreach said it best: http://www.veganoutreach.org/howvegan.html Molly Horn |
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| tinabean
Joined: 09/08/10 Location: Pasadena, TX Posts: 113 |
RE: Mistakes = learning opportunities Posted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 1:25 PM This past year, I was an on-and-off again vegan but pretty much avoided eggs - except in cakes. During that time I learned many things contained egg whites which I never would have expected - Qorn patties, BK Veggie Burgers (their patties used to be vegan but I don't think the bun ever was), and pasta! Pasta was the biggest shock to me because I thought only egg noodles contained eggs. Turned out almost all the pasta in my pantry did. In restaurants I don't want to ask a barage of questions so I just usually ask one or two from the top of my list and try to remember the answers for future visits: does it contain pork, animal fat or broth. Those are my biggies. Some dieters might be more concerned about fat & butter. One thing I know is that restaurant veggies always have way more fat in them than God intended! |
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| kiwi
Joined: 01/03/11 Location: New Zealand Posts: 405 |
RE: Mistakes = learning opportunities Posted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 1:41 PM Thanks for the replies to my post everyone and the advice. This is a process and helpful to know I am not the only one going through it and making a few mistakes (which is why this kick start porgram is so great). Mollyhorn - thanks for the website. I have just read what Vegan Outreach say and agree with you - they say it best. Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food - Hippocrates. |
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| peasandrice
Joined: 12/29/10 Posts: 77 |
RE: Mistakes = learning opportunities Posted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 3:30 PM I like the vegan outreach message as well. It is kind of hard to decide where to draw the line. I used to always eat burger king's veggie burger w/out mayo, but now that I know it has egg whites in the patty it's no longer allowed. But at the same time I liked supporting it because I felt it demonstrated the demand for veggie items and might lead to more and more veggie items being available. Honey is another tricky one, because I like to support our local honey beekeepers because I'm really afraid honey bees are going to go extinct (they almost are in the wild). It's probably something we all just have to decide for ourselves. I haven't had any slip ups so far. But I'm used to reading labels obsessively due to allergy issues. But it's been less than a week so I still have plenty of time |
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