Forums: January 2010 Kickstart Forum Archive: Complete protiens
Created on: 01/28/10 01:37 PM Views: 1909 Replies: 8
Bluesgyrl Joined: 01/06/10 Posts: 159	Complete protiens Posted Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 1:37 PM I was reading in one of my older cook books about completete protiens. Basically how you have to pair a vegan protien source such a beans to a complex carb. to get a "Complete" protien. Does anyone have anything to add to that? Or have a better clarificaion or understanding of it? I wonder then..........do you have to have a certain # of these combinations every day? If you have soy milk in whole grain cereal is this the same type of complete protien because the milk is soy? What if it is rice milk? I am curious because I created a menu this week for my family and would like to participate with Shanna on the forum menu (I don't want her to get burned out) but Im not sure what needs to be included everyday or even if it matters.
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Susan Levin Joined: 12/26/09 Posts: 1192	RE: Complete protiens Posted Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 1:51 PM Good question. The complementing proteins idea is out-of-date information. Let me try and summarize what they know now. As long as you eat a varied diet throughout the day/week, you will get all the essential amino acids you need. As you have probably gathered, some plants are lower in some amino acids while other plants are higher in those same amino acids. This is probably why traditional dishes usually consist of beans AND rice or beans AND corn. Fun fact: corn was traditionally ground on limestone because what is lacking in corn can be found in limestone (brilliant!). Where one is weak, the other is strong. But what recent research has shown is that you don't have to eat these foods in the same meal. Here's a quote from the American Dietetic Association: "Research indicates that an assortment of plant foods eaten over the course of a day can provide all essential amino acids and ensure adequate nitrogen retention and use in healthy adults; thus, complementary proteins do not need to be consumed at the same meal." Susan Levin, MS, RD PCRM Director of Nutrition Education
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shanna Joined: 12/30/09 Posts: 287	RE: Complete protiens Posted Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 2:07 PM Thanks, Susan!
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Bluesgyrl Joined: 01/06/10 Posts: 159	RE: Complete protiens Posted Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 2:10 PM Very, very interesting. I suppose I should update some of my cook books. I must admit, I would have a hard time parting with some of them. Learning proper nutrition and learning to decipher labels is mind boggling. No wonder so many people don't bother. It's work. Worth it..........but work. I saw you quoted in a recent Better Nutition magazine (If not that one.....one similar). How fortunate we have been to have the use of yur knowledge. Thank you.
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Bluesgyrl Joined: 01/06/10 Posts: 159	RE: Complete protiens Posted Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 2:11 PM Sorry...........it was Delicious Living magazine. Fantastic!
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Susan Levin Joined: 12/26/09 Posts: 1192	RE: Complete protiens Posted Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 3:04 PM Thanks for the props. I consider myself lucky to glean from all of you! Just wanted to add - Don't throw away any cookbooks. This protein complementing thing is not a deal-breaker. And who doesn't love beans and grains together anyway? Susan Levin, MS, RD PCRM Director of Nutrition Education
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LaniMuelrath Joined: 12/30/09 Location: California Posts: 557	RE: Complete protiens Posted Saturday, January 30, 2010 at 7:53 PM Yes, this one dies hard! And plant foods not "incomplete", they are just "deficient" in some aminos, which can be so easily complimented by the other foods eaten and the amino acid pool circulating in our bodies. It's alwasy amazing to get the question "where do you get your protein?" Patience, I know. Here's a must-read from Dr. McDougall on this topic: http://drmcdougall.com/misc/2007nl/apr/dairy.htm Lani Lani Muelrath, M.A. CGFI, CPBN the Plant-Based Fitness Expert McDougall Health & Medical Center 5 Minute Fitness & Plant-based Blueprint www
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Bluesgyrl Joined: 01/06/10 Posts: 159	RE: Complete protiens Posted Saturday, January 30, 2010 at 11:20 PM Wow.................what a great article (or paper I should say)! So interesting. Who would have thought that over eating animal protien caused osteo.????? Thanks so much for turning me on to that one. It is true though..............how many protien deficient people do you know? I don't know even one. Vegan or otherwise.
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LaniMuelrath Joined: 12/30/09 Location: California Posts: 557	RE: Complete protiens Posted Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 11:34 AM Sure Bluesgyrl! You can get lost in the McDougall archives - amazing material, well researched and documented - and always filled with common sense in ways you may not have put it together before. I find myself referencing people to his reports quite often for full info. Lani Lani Muelrath, M.A. CGFI, CPBN the Plant-Based Fitness Expert McDougall Health & Medical Center 5 Minute Fitness & Plant-based Blueprint www
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