Forums: April 2011 Kickstart Forum: low fat, no fat, oils, bread and other thoughts
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kiwi Joined: 01/03/11 Location: New Zealand Posts: 405	low fat, no fat, oils, bread and other thoughts Posted Sunday, June 12, 2011 at 2:34 AM I have just finished reading Dr Esselstyn's book "Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease". The dietary advise is very similar to Dr Barnard except instead of low fat, it is no fat. No oils to be used at all. No nuts (except occasional walnuts). No advocado, no coconut. The Kickstart had me looking at food labels to find hidden animal products of any kind and I was surprised at how much dairy was in things I would not have considered dairy to be in. This book now has me looking for added fats and oils and I am equally surprised at what I am finding. Most breads in New Zealand have dairy (milk or milk products). There are some vegan breads but I cannot find any commercial vegan bread that does not have oil in it -usually cannnola oil. If I eat the Esselstyn way, I will need to either start making my own bread or stop eating bread. I am not sure if I will try to follow the Esselstyn way of eating but it is making me think as heart disease does run in the family. Is anyone else following his suggestions? Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food - Hippocrates.
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Susan Levin Joined: 12/26/09 Posts: 1191	low fat, no fat, oils, bread and other thoughts Posted Sunday, June 12, 2011 at 8:31 AM Hey Kiwi. Dr. Esselstyn's program is very low fat indeed. But remember, there is fat in whole plant foods. For example, broccoli gets 8 percent of its calories from fat. An orange about 2.3 percent of its calories are from fat. The good thing about plants is that their ratio of essential fatty acids (omega 3s and omega 6s) is ideal. Susan Levin, MS, RD PCRM Director of Nutrition Education
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Wild4Stars Joined: 12/27/09 Location: Florida Posts: 832	Low fat, no fat, oils, bread and other thoughts Posted Sunday, June 12, 2011 at 9:24 AM kiwi wrote: I have just finished reading Dr Esselstyn's book "Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease". The dietary advise is very similar to Dr Barnard except instead of low fat, it is no fat. No oils to be used at all. No nuts (except occasional walnuts). No advocado, no coconut. The Kickstart had me looking at food labels to find hidden animal products of any kind and I was surprised at how much dairy was in things I would not have considered dairy to be in. This book now has me looking for added fats and oils and I am equally surprised at what I am finding. Most breads in New Zealand have dairy (milk or milk products). There are some vegan breads but I cannot find any commercial vegan bread that does not have oil in it -usually cannnola oil. If I eat the Esselstyn way, I will need to either start making my own bread or stop eating bread. I am not sure if I will try to follow the Esselstyn way of eating but it is making me think as heart disease does run in the family. Is anyone else following his suggestions? It's been awhile since I read the same Esselstyn book, but I seem to remember not that it is NO FAT, but that it's no ADDED fat. Like Susan says, there is fat in plant foods. Some beans are fairly high in fat, but there is no ADDED oils. I think PCRM promotes basically the same, not using foods that have added, processed oils. Though PCRM does allow nuts and avocado, only in very small amounts. I don't think there is a huge difference in the two. I think it would depend on your health history and how much weight you want to lose and how fast. While I think nuts and avocados in small amounts can be healthy foods, they certainly aren't low calorie. Vikki ~ Wild4Stars@gmail.com
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kiwi Joined: 01/03/11 Location: New Zealand Posts: 405	RE: low fat, no fat, oils, bread & other thoughts Posted Sunday, June 12, 2011 at 2:58 PM You are right - it is no added fat. Only the fats found naturally in food. I should have been clearer. The two diets are very similar. Same message, different teachers. I am still amazed at how much vegetable oil/fat is hidden in commercial products now I am looking more closely. No wonder they taste good and we get addicted Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food - Hippocrates.
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