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Created on: 01/16/11 04:03 AM Views: 2955 Replies: 15
The Hot Dog Story
Posted Sunday, January 16, 2011 at 4:03 AM

I read Dr. Barnards book 'Reversing Diabetes' in the Spring 2010. I was real excited and followed his advice and for 3 weeks ate as close to vegan as this newbie could. I had a lot more energy, lost about 20 lbs. and said to everyone this is just what my body needs to function properly and I'd always be vegan. THEN I ate a hot dog...... Since that day I went back to the old eating habits until I got the email to start his kickstart.

What do I do to prevent this from happening again? I know there will be dilemas like this again in my future.

RE: The Hot Dog Story
Posted Sunday, January 16, 2011 at 7:24 AM

Next time don't eat the hot dog. If its offered just say,
"No thanks" and bring alternative snacks/foods with you. Buy veggie dogs.

RE: The Hot Dog Story
Posted Sunday, January 16, 2011 at 7:35 AM

hey veggies4me,

One thing I learned is that when changing to a totally different type of diet/lifestyle, few people can do it 100% off the bat, cold turkey...it's easy to get overwhelmed...

Sometimes it's best to add better foods to your diet, not necessarily omitting other foods, but simply adding the new foods to your diet. What you find will happen is, these newer, better for you foods will start to replace the old, not so good for you foods....eventually you will change your diet/lifestyle to incorporate all of these better foods. If you look at it to change say 8-10% of your diet a month, by the end of a year, your diet will be converted.

Approaching it this way allows you to ease in to better health, and it doesn't penalize you for let's say, eating a hot dog....so, this time around, if you are doing the Kickstart program, give yourself room to ease into it. Make additions to your diet that are easy to do like, changing white rice to whole grains or eating a hearty salad as your lunch or with your lunch. Try a meat substitute as your dinner...if it's hot dogs you crave, go for a meat alternative dog instead.

Now some people may frown upon this approach, saying that a year is too long to take to convert your diet, or your health is too important etc, and yes, I agree. But I also agree that we all need to be realistic, and that there is no point in beating ourselves up if we fall off the path to good health.

So, hopefully this helps Smile Have a great day! Very Happy

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RE: The Hot Dog Story
Posted Sunday, January 16, 2011 at 8:13 AM

Hi Veggies for me..

In my opinion you have to find what inspires YOU to change your eating habits. For some of us it is a healthy diet, or animal cruelty, or a smaller footprint, or better tasting food...

For me it's a combination of the above. Also I want to be as active and healthy at 85 as at 50. I don't want to slow down. I am going to age. .. i don't want to get old.

THen you take your inspiration and find "tricks" to help you thru the hard parts. If it's animal cruelty you think about the downed cows dragged to the slaghter house after sitting an entire day trying to get out of their own poop.. or the animals starting to be butchered before they are even dead. That trick will gross me out so bad i don't even want custard. I loved custard. I think about the chickens and say no thank you. If i buy it, i am supporting it.

If the inspiration is health.. just think the cheese on that pizza you want is 100% fat.. greasy.. remember how you feel when you eat it? Find a way to make the food unappealing. LIke a hot dog.. do you really know what is in it? Parts you wouldn't eat if it was put on your plate.. geletin.. hooves.. gross.. Think of eating the meat and dairy as a way of killing yourself slowly.

Still having trouble? well what is even easier than the tricks..is to find a good substitute for the food you really really want. Once your tummy is full the need to eat whatever isn't so urgent. Gotta plan, gotta have good food on hand. A no cheese pizza sure is satisfying. I guess that is a good word. Satisfying. Instead of eating, and feeling guilty and then eating more.. when eating right i am satisfied emotionally and tummy wise. It feels good.

So when you do have that slice of pizza, stuffed shells, hot dog what do you do? Be kind to yourself. Don't ever think of it as cheating. Cheating implies you were overcome.. and just had to have that pizza or hotdog. You made a decision. Simple. The differnce is you keep your power. The next decision is exactly that.. yours. So don't feel bad. Its ok. you made a decision. YOu didn't screw up everything. Just go right back to eating the way you are inspired to the next day!

Yep i have experience. .. Christmas eve i had the best stuffed shells ever.. i must have eaten 8 or 9 of them, with alfredo sauce.. and cheesecake... and you know what by not "cheating" i truely enjoyed every single last bite.... then the next day and ever since i have been eating vegan. in fact probably more vegan.. trying to eliminate eggs in baked goods.

oh that is another trick..when i started this in sept, i told myself one day a month i could eat whatever i wanted to and not feel bad at all. I have used it for seafood and stuffed shells. What I found was that i kept pushing that one day off..saving it for something terrific that just never seemed to be worth it or better than what i was already eating.

best to you!!! hope you find something in there that helps.

Edited 01/16/11 8:14 AM
RE: The Hot Dog Story
Posted Sunday, January 16, 2011 at 9:53 AM

veggies4me wrote:

I had a lot more energy, lost about 20 lbs. and said to everyone this is just what my body needs to function properly and I'd always be vegan.

Always remember that feeling. I'll bet an hour after you ate that hot dog you felt "yuck." But it tasted good and the old addiction set back in. SO much of the SAD diet really is addictive. But your body tells you what it wants by feeling good and functioning propertly - just like you described.

Vikki ~ Wild4Stars@gmail.com

RE: The Hot Dog Story
Posted Sunday, January 16, 2011 at 10:52 AM

You certainly don't want to beat yourself up about stepping off the path. So if you slip once (said hot dog), don't let that be the start of a spiral. Let it be inspiration to get a stronger foothold on the path.

One of my favorite Kickstart quotes comes from Marilu Henner:

Nothing tastes as good as healthy feels.

Susan Levin, MS, RD
PCRM Director of Nutrition Education

RE: The Hot Dog Story
Posted Sunday, January 16, 2011 at 11:26 AM

This kind of reminds me of when I quit smoking. I would go a long time without having a cigarette and then break down and have one. Then it would be like "Great,I failed, now I'm a smoker again." I would just keep smoking from that point on. I probably tried to quit at least once a year. I would count quitting from the last cigarette, so if I'd quit for 3 months and then had one I would reset my date, so then I had quit for one day. It made it feel hopeless.

Finally someone said to me that having one cigarette is just that, one cigarette, it doesn't make me a "smoker" again. So now I think about it as: I quit in March of 2006, but I've had a few slip ups since then (honestly maybe 20 individual cigarettes). That's a pack in nearly 5 years versus the pack a day I used to smoke.

I think the key for me was to know that it's not "all or nothing". Also what CCh22 said about having permission to have something once a month to make it seem like it's not "forever". I did the same thing except mine was "I will eat vegan all the time except I can have dairy on holidays." But now I'm planning my son's and my birthdays in February and I'm having fun planning vegan versions of everything. It's challenging and fun and I feel better about it. But I still have the out if I really want it.

If you do something like that be careful who you tell that you have non vegan days. I am getting a lot of pressure to eat non-vegan on any tiny little holiday now. It's really frustrating and I wish I had never said anything at all.

RE: The Hot Dog Story
Posted Sunday, January 16, 2011 at 12:10 PM

Vegan Hot Dog. Seriously. We use Lightlife when the urge hits. Certified Vegan. http://www.lightlife.com/product_detail.jsp?p=smartdogs

0 fat
45 calories.

Cooked in the nuker for a short time, they have the exact texture of a hot dog. Put on your basic onion, mustard, relish and so forth, you won't tell the difference. It even fooled my brother in law the mighty hunter who thinks you MUST have meat to survive.
They come in regular or Jumbo size.

Not all their products are Vegan but they tell you plainly if they are or aren't. And it is just as satisfying as the real thing.

Edited 01/16/11 12:15 PM
RE: The Hot Dog Story
Posted Sunday, January 16, 2011 at 2:42 PM

cch22 wrote:

In my opinion you have to find what inspires YOU to change your eating habits.

That is the truth! For me it was all about animal cruely. I accepted a challenge from a friend to simply try vegetarianism for 30 days. After 10 days I changed to vegan. As I was doing my "homework", I saw one specific video that truly sent me over the edge. As I work in a Subway restaurant, that first week was hard; all the meat and cheese I used to eat. But those videos were in the very forefront of my mind. They made me strong. I learned to play a little game when I thought "just one slice of ham or piece of cheese". I had a little ditty I'd sing to myself, then I'd smile knowing I'd overcome another temptation. Those videos now live quietly, but always in the back of my mind, and I'm so grateful to my friend. Vegan since 8-15-09 and even got a tattoo to commemorate it. I'd change my pic if I could figure out how I got it there in the first place! If only smoking were so easy...

"But for the sake of some little mouthful of flesh we deprive a soul of the sun and light, and of that proportion of life and time it had been born into the world to enjoy." Plutarch.

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RE: The Hot Dog Story
Posted Sunday, January 16, 2011 at 3:45 PM

Thanks all for these wonderful words of support and encouragement. I think when I slip up, I am going to read these messages. I know it will get me where I need to be again. Thank you so much!

RE: The Hot Dog Story
Posted Sunday, January 16, 2011 at 6:05 PM

philocrates wrote:

Vegan Hot Dog. Seriously. We use Lightlife when the urge hits. Certified Vegan. http://www.lightlife.com/product_detail.jsp?p=smartdogs

0 fat
45 calories.

Cooked in the nuker for a short time, they have the exact texture of a hot dog. Put on your basic onion, mustard, relish and so forth, you won't tell the difference. It even fooled my brother in law the mighty hunter who thinks you MUST have meat to survive.
They come in regular or Jumbo size.

My omnivore husband ASKS for Lightlife vegan hot dogs. If he goes to the grocery store he'll buy them and say, "can we have hotdogs this week?" They're that good.

Vikki ~ Wild4Stars@gmail.com

RE: The Hot Dog Story
Posted Sunday, January 16, 2011 at 11:19 PM

I make our area's traditional sauerkraut, hot dogs and dumplings with them. Also use them in my baked bean casserole. I just wish their Buffalo "chicken wings" were vegan.

Edited 01/16/11 11:20 PM
RE: The Hot Dog Story
Posted Monday, January 17, 2011 at 5:09 AM

Gardein makes Buffalo wings that are vegan and delicious. In the frozen foods section.

Vikki ~ Wild4Stars@gmail.com

RE: The Hot Dog Story
Posted Monday, January 17, 2011 at 9:10 AM

one thing I've found helpful is to think about what it is I want about that item - what was I wanting when I had that hot dog? Did I want the salty? The texture? Was I just really overhungry and that was the fastest thing on hand? Was it a social discomfort situation?

Once I've done that, I can see "I really need to have something on hand that has a bit of bite to the texture" or saltiness or whatever. Sometimes what I find is that the only reason I wanted the hot dog was because I wanted the mustard/saurkraut flavor combo, not the hot dog so much. So I look for ways to get that combo (like steaming up some cabbage and putting mustard on it).

--Deb R

RE: The Hot Dog Story
Posted Monday, January 17, 2011 at 12:04 PM

I wouldn't advise eating these everyday, but Field Roast makes a smoked apple sage sausage that is perfect when you crave a hot dog. Delicious on a toasted whole wheat bun, with sauerkraut, and mustard.

RE: The Hot Dog Story
Posted Monday, January 17, 2011 at 6:48 PM

marge wrote:

I wouldn't advise eating these everyday, but Field Roast makes a smoked apple sage sausage that is perfect when you crave a hot dog. Delicious on a toasted whole wheat bun, with sauerkraut, and mustard.

Ditto! Field Roast sausage is fabulous tasting. A bit high in calories so just for treats, but they are GOOD!

Vikki ~ Wild4Stars@gmail.com


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