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Created on: 08/25/10 09:29 AM Views: 25743 Replies: 64
RE: Getting Ready!
Posted Wednesday, September 1, 2010 at 8:28 PM

Looking forward to this. Just happened upon the site and decided to give it a try. Anyone who has done the Kickstart before-any suggestions for success?

Edited 09/01/10 8:29 PM
RE: Getting Ready!
Posted Wednesday, September 1, 2010 at 9:24 PM

Hi everyone!

Can't wait. I have health problems and went vegan for a month, lost 20lbs and saw improvements. For most days I'm vegan but want to go back completely. My daughter is vegan and has been for around 2 yrs now.

RE: Getting Ready!
Posted Wednesday, September 1, 2010 at 9:58 PM

I had the same problem i didn't see the video

www.veganintherough.com
just a girl going vegan

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Edited 09/01/10 9:59 PM
RE: Getting Ready!
Posted Thursday, September 2, 2010 at 10:54 AM

Yes, I am ready. I have so much friut in my house, its unreal. Also got some tofu in the fridge and loads of beans as well. Really looking forward to this. Now, if I can just get my husband so excited.

eggplant

RE: Getting Ready!
Posted Thursday, September 2, 2010 at 11:17 AM

Hi all, I am ready to do it this time, last time I only got my feet wet. But one recipe I loved from last time, but lost Crying or Very sad was for the tacos made with garbanzo beans, I forgot who the celeb was, and I checked thru the website and can't find it. Susan or anyone, please help if you know the recipe!!Thanks!!

RE: Getting Ready!
Posted Thursday, September 2, 2010 at 12:11 PM

I actually had gone vegan for 6 months in 2008 and was doing great. I had 2 losses in 2009, and I allowed myself to slip back into actually really bad food choices. I am a diabetic and had seen the benefits those 6 months, although not as low fat as I should have been. I am at a point in my life where I am ready to embrace a plant-based lifestyle for my health. I'm ready, KickStart me! Very Happy

RE: Getting Ready!
Posted Thursday, September 2, 2010 at 12:44 PM

Hi..I am sooo ready for this..my years of unhealthy eating has made me alot unhealthier than I should be.I eliminated dairy and meat about two weeks ago..My family and friends think that I am crazy..and don't think that I can do this..Well I am going to do this..for me..and hopefully will set a good example for my doubters and they too will want to follow in my foot steps!!Really looking forward to the support from everyone else taking this challenge Smile

calories
Posted Sunday, September 5, 2010 at 10:19 AM

Hi everyone-My family is excited to follow the kickstart program. We have been vegetarian for about 9 months now and am ready to commit even further. My big question is when I read the menu plan and calculated calories by serving size it is only about 900 calories. This is way too little especially for my husband. Are we just supposed to eat more than the serving size or eat more snacks? Any ideas out there? I couldn't find out anything else on the website for this question.
Thanks.

RE: Getting Ready!
Posted Sunday, September 5, 2010 at 1:47 PM

I'm looking forward to getting started on this program. This is completely new to my daughter and I, but we find ourselves eating less and less meat products and thought it was a good time to switch our eating habits and try the kickstart. We are not big fans of soy milk, so will have to figure that part out. Heading off to the store to get started!

RE: Getting Ready!
Posted Sunday, September 5, 2010 at 2:09 PM

wendalee wrote:

Hi..I am sooo ready for this..my years of unhealthy eating has made me alot unhealthier than I should be.I eliminated dairy and meat about two weeks ago..My family and friends think that I am crazy..and don't think that I can do this..Well I am going to do this..for me..and hopefully will set a good example for my doubters and they too will want to follow in my foot steps!!Really looking forward to the support from everyone else taking this challenge Smile
Good for you! The most important change you made was going off dairy. It's important that you use nothing that has the dairy protein casomorphine (casein, for short) in it because that is what is causing the trouble in cancer, diabetes, heart disease, MS, and a lot of other diseases and inflammatory problems like arthritis and osteoporosis. Throw away your salt and use a tablespoon of rinsed dulse sea weed leaf, which will provide minerals and trace minerals. The ripe local fruits will provide lots of fiber along with the organic salad mixes in the local stores if you are not growing your own. www.RawLife.org and www.rawdoctors.com.

RE: Getting Ready!
Posted Monday, September 6, 2010 at 8:04 AM

Looking forward to a new (and old) beginning...former veggie and vegan lost her way...feeling the worst I've ever felt...need to lose weight, get these allergies and asthma under control, and want my clean and clear and energizer bunny self back! Very Happy Laughing Wink

RE: Getting Ready!
Posted Monday, September 6, 2010 at 11:57 AM

luckybluerose wrote:

Looking forward to a new (and old) beginning...former veggie and vegan lost her way...feeling the worst I've ever felt...need to lose weight, get these allergies and asthma under control, and want my clean and clear and energizer bunny self back! Very Happy Laughing Wink

RE: Getting Ready!
Posted Monday, September 6, 2010 at 11:59 AM

My husband and I have been doing the McDougal thing since about May. He's lost about 15 lbs. (and didn't need to). I've lost nothing Crying or Very sad. I have cheated on occasion though (not my husband). I am looking forward to being disciplined about this. I really want to feel better and drop a few lbs. Smile

RE: Getting Ready!
Posted Monday, September 6, 2010 at 1:56 PM

I have been getting ready and am so glad to have a group to start. I have started and stopped several times over the past year, so 21 days should give me a good start. Shamefully I own 8 Vegan books, but once people bring pizza or cake to work then I'm off - any suggestions?

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RE: Getting Ready!
Posted Wednesday, September 8, 2010 at 12:12 AM

tomyhealth wrote:

Hi all, I am ready to do it this time, last time I only got my feet wet. But one recipe I loved from last time, but lost Crying or Very sad was for the tacos made with garbanzo beans, I forgot who the celeb was, and I checked thru the website and can't find it. Susan or anyone, please help if you know the recipe!!Thanks!!

I am pretty sure this is not the recipe you're looking for but I did find one here: http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=5911.0. I really love VegWeb - such an awesome resource! Smile

~ Molly

Molly D.
~ San Diego, CA

RE: Getting Ready!
Posted Wednesday, September 8, 2010 at 11:44 AM

Hello there!
I had to changed the couscous for brown rice or barely, a made a good salad with garbanzos bean! It was great, in my country sometimes (more than less) its difficulty buy some ingredients, but I think we can change some times while make a good food like 21DK menu...
English is not my mother language...So... Embarassed Laughing

Maru

RE: Getting Ready!
Posted Monday, September 13, 2010 at 12:41 PM

FWIW re: no soak lentils reference

We've found (thanks to an online friend) that ANY beans can be "no soak". We had always shied away from using dry beans because of the whole overnight soaking process (we'd never had good luck with it at all). Then a friend mentioned that her inlaws are from Mexico and beans are a staple of their diet. They don't soak them. Rinse them good (pick out any odd bits) then put them in a big pot of water (I think it's something around 4 to 1 water to beans), bring it to a boil, put the lid on and simmer very low for 2-4 hours (depends on what type of bean). My hubby said he can tell when they're done by stirring - if he hears tell tale little "clangs", the beans are still a bit hard and need more time. When he can stir silently, the beans are done. He then drains them (mostly, a little liquid left is fine) and scoops them out into old peanut butter jars. Sealed up in the fridge, we can have a week's worth of beans for a couple hours of cooking time.
--Deb

RE: Getting Ready!
Posted Monday, September 13, 2010 at 5:27 PM

If they are not drained, the phytates (protein inhibitors) remain in the water, and then one cannot get the protein and just gets the starch, and will gain weight on beans, instead of lose weight. There are also other things in the beans that will cause one to have arthritis-like pains (natural insecticide and pesticides, not man-made) so the soaking is preferable. This is one of the reasons why the women in Mexico are in the top 3 (along with Egypt) of being overweight. They have forgotten what their grandmothers taught, and are now using wheat tortillas instead of the corn with lime tortillas, which are far superior.

RE: Getting Ready!
Posted Monday, September 13, 2010 at 5:44 PM

I did my first germinated, from garbanzos bean... Tomorrow they are ready to eat! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
BR

Maru

RE: Getting Ready!
Posted Sunday, September 19, 2010 at 1:33 PM

Many MDs found themselves in the situation where they were diagnosed as having advance heart disease or cancers. They designed this diet and they all got well. Bottom line: vegan with 10% fat and 10% protein. The R stands for no refined foods; the A, no animal products; the V, no vegetable oils; and E, no exceptions (and exercise, although they did no exercise to get well. It was strictly diet.) Remember to chugalug the fresh home ripened and juiced pineapple juice that dissolves cholesterol and fat first thing in the next morning on an empty stomach (ayunas) if you mess up over the holidays. We all do! This is the morning after drink for those of us who eat too much fat because we get too cold (below 85)!

Dr. Flora, drflora3rd@netzero.net; www.rawdoctors.com

NO VEGETABLE OILS

Strictly speaking, vegetable oils are part of the Refined Foods group because they contain no fiber, they’re devoid of nutrients and they are 100% fat. They also constitute a whopping 11% of the calories Americans consume. Putting 2 tbsp. of oil in your salad has the fat equivalent of 2 scoops of ice cream. From a weight loss perspective, eliminating vegetable oils is a very easy – and healthy – way to cut calories.
There are other problems with vegetable oils, however. These oils contain high levels of saturated fat, which is essentially “cholesterol in disguise” because it stimulates your liver to make more cholesterol than your body needs and ends up clogging arteries. In fact, adding any oil to your food will raise your cholesterol level, even more than eating cholesterol itself. 9
Hydrogenated vegetable oils (trans-fats) are particularly efficient at clogging arteries and depriving your body of oxygen. These oils are found in all kinds of refined foods such as chips, cookies, crackers, cereals, breakfast bars and other baked goods. Every time you eat a bag of French pastries, croissants, or cookies it’s no different than biting into a piece of meat.
In packaged goods, look for the word “hydrogenated” in the ingredients list and put it back on the shelf. And any food that’s deep-fried, such as fast food French fries or donuts, will contain these artery-clogging oils. Most commercial brands of peanut butter will also use hydrogenated oils. Purchase the type where the oil is separated and you have to refrigerate it, and then pour off the excess oil on top before stirring it up. Or, better yet, grind your own nut butter at a health food store.
Hydrogenated oils are the “glue” that holds refined carbohydrates together in order to increase shelf life. In fact, the healthy amount of trans-fats in your diet should be exactly zero. Ingredients used for longer shelf lives in food translate into longer illnesses and a shorter shelf life for you.
Fried animal foods, such as fried chicken, are probably the most dangerous foods in existence because they combine high levels of saturated fat and cholesterol, with hydrogenated oils. In other words, your blood vessels are getting a triple-whammy when you eat fried animal foods.
Even seemingly “innocent” foods like movie popcorn are dangerous as they are usually popped in coconut or palm oil, both of which are extremely high in saturated fat.
The current rage among some health authorities is olive oil. It’s ironic that our health authorities are advising an overweight nation to eat the most concentrated form of fat on the planet, which packs more calories, pound-for-pound, than butter. The basic reason (presumably) is that they are trying to move people away from margarine, although these same authorities (e.g., The American Heart Association and virtually all major health experts) were praising margarine just a few decades ago – and quoting studies purporting to show margarine, containing hydrogenated oils, was heart-healthy!
Although olive oil is healthier than butter or margarine, that’s not saying much. It’s probably the worse way to get heart-healthy fats because there’s almost no nutritional bang for the calorie buck. In fact olive and other oils are so nutritionally bankrupt that Joel Fuhrman, M.D., gives oils a score of 1 out of 100, just above refined sweets, which score a zero.
Olive oil is 100% fat, contains high concentrations of saturated fat while the fiber, antioxidants, vitamins and minerals of the olive itself have all been stripped away. In clinical studies on humans, olive oil has been shown to be as bad for the heart as eating roast beef.11
In addition, the Omega-3’s in vegetable oils are highly unstable and tend to decompose and unleash free radicals that cause damage to cells. Vegetable oils have also been implicated in several different studies with cancer and polyunsaturated fat turn out to be the strongest promoter of skin cancers of all the foodstuffs we eat.12
Vegetable oils also suppress the immune system and actually promote the spread of some cancers.13 Simply put, olive and other vegetable oils are bankrupt foods that have little nutritional value, a very high caloric cost and actually do damage to your body. If you’re after the good fat in olives, get it from the olives themselves, not the denatured oil.
Some highly questionable studies14 claim to show a “slower progression” of heart disease when people consume olive oil, but having a slower progression of heart disease hardly makes the case that olive oil is heart-healthy, assuming such a causal relationship exists in the first place. Other studies have shown it is not the olive oil at all, but the high fiber content in a traditional Mediterranean-type diet that accounts for lower rates of heart disease.15 A diet is not heart-healthy unless it arrests and reverses heart disease and only a whole, plant-based diet – which specifically excludes all oils – has been proven to do that. Adding oils to such a diet only impairs its effectiveness.
The model for the Mediterranean diet harks back to the ‘50’s and before when people, especially in the island of Crete, were virtually free of heart disease – despite their indulgence in olive oil. This was not because of the olive oil, but because they ate primarily vegetables and whole grains, a little fish and got lots of exercise. Today, their consumption of olive oil has remained the same (if not increased), but their consumption of whole plant foods has plummeted, as has their exercise. As a result, heart disease and obesity have skyrocketed. Olive oil has nothing to do with preventing heart disease and clinical studies have shown that it promotes arterial lesions.16 It’s just another magic bullet that is a big, fat fantasy promoted by the olive oil industry determined to get high levels of fat back into our diets.
The leading health authorities in reversing heart disease with diet, including Drs. Caldwell Esselstyn, Joel Fuhrman, John McDougall and Dean Ornish, all agree that vegetables oils should be excluded from a heart-healthy diet. These are doctors who actually reverse heart disease, as opposed to those who just talk about it or promote the greasy stuff because of financial ties to the olive oil industry. In fact, there has not been a single case of heart disease arrest or reversal where any vegetable oil was a part of the diet. So, if olive oil is so “heart-healthy,” why would doctors who reverse heart disease specifically exclude it? Because they consider vegetable oils to be “heart dangerous” and so should you.
As we saw in The Laws of Cancer, even the good fat in oils has been shown to unleash dangerous free radicals and promote the spread of cancer cells, whereas the good fat in natural, whole foods is stable and does not display this behavior. Fat should be released into the blood stream slowly and you can only get that slow release by eating natural plant foods in their natural packages that still contain their fiber.
In a nutshell, here’s the argument against oils: all dietary fats – be they animal or plant fats of all kinds – at levels above 20% of total calories, cause heart disease. This has been demonstrated in many clinical tests.17 In order to prevent heart disease, you have to reduce your overall fat intake. A diet of 100% whole plant foods is as heart-healthy as you can get. Why introduce a highly concentrated form of fat, such as vegetable oil, that will surely bring your fat intake level into an unsafe zone?
Oils should be put in vehicles and machinery, not in your body. In fact, the original use of Canola oil was to lubricate machinery. Then someone came up with the bright idea that people might actually eat it. (These days, some are even converting their cars to run on vegetable oil, like my friend Tim Tye, the Raw Food Guy!) Flaxseed oil is commonly used as a thinner in paints and varnishes and when consumed in high quantities, can hamper the blood’s ability to clot.
Instead of using vegetable oils for cooking, cook at lower temperatures and use water to make your own broth – or use the substitutes below. You’ll be surprised at how well they work. And with a little practice, you’ll soon find you prefer the cleaner taste. It’s like the difference between eating peaches in heavy syrup and eating fresh peaches right off the tree. Once you stop using oils, you will be able to taste the difference and you’ll never go back. (See Cooking Without Oil)
Oil substitutes for sautéing: apple juice, vegetable stock, vinegars
Oil substitutes in baked goods: applesauce, pureed bananas or stewed prunes (use non-stick pans)
For salads, choose a dressing without oil, such as Paula’s No-Oil dressings (you can find these at health food stores and increasingly at regular grocery stores) or a vinegar-based dressing (if you are not O+), such as a Balsamic or brown rice seasoned vinegar dressing.
Change to the RAVE Diet and you can get off aspirin and other blood thinning medicines. Check out www.RAVEdiet.com for the DVD (around $7)


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