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mollyhorn
 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 582 |
In need of moral support Posted Tuesday, March 30, 2010 at 11:50 PM Hey all, I have an eating disorder, and I follow a pretty strict food plan as part of my recovery. That means that my options are somewhat limited already (though the vegan diet sugggested by PCRM fits well within my guidelines). The reason I mention my disease is to make clear that I know this is an emotional issue for me, and has nothing to do with rational needs. I'm not craving certain foods because my body needs them... only because my brain misses them. So, thanks for reading this. Any and all of your two cents are more than welcome. Molly Horn |
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Wild4Stars
 Location: Florida Posts: 832 |
RE: In need of moral support Posted Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 5:58 AM Just like any addiction the longer you can stay away from your "drug" the more you'll be in control of your future and your health. And maybe you need a support group, not just on-line but a live, in person support group. I have a friend who has had great success with Overeaters Anonymous. They don't prescribe a certain diet, they just help with the addiction aspect of overeating. Maybe you could find a group in your area. YOU CAN DO THIS. Your health depends on it. Vikki ~ Wild4Stars@gmail.com |
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| lindy
Joined: 02/28/10 Posts: 2 |
RE: In need of moral support Posted Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 7:31 AM addictions are duffuclt. might I suggest a group called Food Addicts in Recovery Anonymous also pehaos getting into a 12 Step Program, which meets evey week to reinforce your goals. Going Vegan is hard for me, too. . I keep looking for good protein sources and I need to learn how to cook vegan and please my famuly with "New tasting" meals. |
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| mollyhorn
Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 582 |
RE: In need of moral support Posted Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 8:09 AM Thank you for suggesting a support group – I'm actually already a member of one. My plea on here was looking more for support of my vegan lifestyle and the more limited food choices, rather than of my food addiction... but thank you all VERY much for your emotional support. I really do appreciate it. Molly Horn |
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| mollyhorn
Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 582 |
RE: In need of moral support Posted Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 8:09 AM . Molly Horn |
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| natcristo
Posts: 46 |
RE: In need of moral support Posted Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 8:39 AM May I suggest Yoga..it will help you have control of your addiction and peace of mind. Yoga is also good for people of any size..May I recommend any dvd from the Yoga Journal series...it is also great exercise with limited pressure on joints so it is also good in that way.. Natasha |
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| Mariberry
Joined: 01/02/10 Posts: 297 |
RE: In need of moral support Posted Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 10:12 AM Hi Molly - it seems you've already found a group to support you in your recovery so the need to look "outside yourself" is covered. As with any addiction acknowledge those cravings when they come up, look them in the face, and then decide if you'll choose to continue to say "no" to that missed food. You've got the power - not the food. And you're right - in time those cravings will fade away. (I remember when I first quit smoking over 25 years ago I used to have smoking dreams...the mind the loves to play tricks!) I know how you feel - there are certain foods I miss too, for no rational reason! (like hotdogs - is there anything more vile on the planet??) My mantra has become: My body is not a graveyard! (saw it on a T-shirt in a vegan shop). Good on you for taking such a wonderful, proactive step to good health - one day, one step at a time. Make it a great day! All we are saying is "Give Peas a Chance" |
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| Wild4Stars
Location: Florida Posts: 832 |
RE: In need of moral support Posted Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 10:13 AM Yoga is a great idea. Any type of meditation will also help, I think. Also, I think it's important to realize that a food addiction is so different than any other type of addiction. You CAN quit drugs, you CAN quit drinking, you CAN quit smoking, but you Can NOT quit eating. Also, some food are addictive, even to people who don't tend to have addictions. I encourage you (actually everyone) to read "The China Study." It was a real eye opener for me. I have even gotten my omnivore husband off of dairy products, which are VERY addictive. Also "The End of Overeating" by Kessler is a good read and explains how the food companies know and PLAN to keep you addicted to certain foods. Vikki ~ Wild4Stars@gmail.com |
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| Wild4Stars
Location: Florida Posts: 832 |
RE: In need of moral support Posted Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 10:48 AM [/quote] I know how you feel - there are certain foods I miss too, for no rational reason! (like hotdogs - is there anything more vile on the planet??) My mantra has become: My body is not a graveyard! (saw it on a T-shirt in a vegan shop). Good on you for taking such a wonderful, proactive step to good health - one day, one step at a time. Make it a great day![/quote] NOT SURE WHY I COULDN'T MAKE THIS "QUOTE" FEATURE WORK! ALL ABOVE IS QUOTED FROM PREVIOUS POST. I love "My body is not a graveyard." That's a shirt I would have had to buy!! Vikki ~ Wild4Stars@gmail.com |
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| Mariberry
Joined: 01/02/10 Posts: 297 |
RE: In need of moral support Posted Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 11:03 AM Wild4Stars wrote: You CAN quit drugs, you CAN quit drinking, you CAN quit smoking, but you Can NOT quit eating. You're right, Wild4Stars, we can't quit eating...but we CAN quit eating animal products - and we have! Still...that doesn't mean we won't miss them, even crave them, at times. Yoga and reading informative material are great suggestions, but at the end of the day, when a craving hits, I have to CHOOSE to say absolutely NO to it - just like anyone would with any other addictive substance. BTW. here's the link to the shop I mentioned: http://www.karmavore.ca/shop_new.php I love the name of it! All we are saying is "Give Peas a Chance" |
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| Wild4Stars
Location: Florida Posts: 832 |
RE: In need of moral support Posted Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 11:16 AM OMG! Karmavore says it all doesn't it? Thanks for the link. Vikki ~ Wild4Stars@gmail.com |
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| TexGal
Joined: 02/25/10 Location: Texas Posts: 111 |
RE: In need of moral support Posted Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 11:45 AM Mollyhorn, maybe it will help to take a "one day at a time" approach. So if you are missing steak, or fried chicken, or whatever tempts you, instead of thinking "I can never again have that in my whole life!" think "I choose not to put that into my body TODAY." That helped me when I first decided to follow a vegan diet and was thinking "Oh no, I can never again eat ice cream!" I decided to focus instead on "today I am choosing to eat this delicious fresh fruit instead of ice cream" ... or whatever. You get the idea. What we choose to eat affects our bodies and our world for the long-term, but sometimes it is easier to focus on the short-term when making our choices ... at least for me. The other thing that helps is having GOOD alternatives. If I find myself with nothing to eat except ANOTHER can of beans and MORE plain rice, I want to run out and grab a burger too! But when I have good fresh fruit & veggies and some healthy snacks around, it is much easier to enjoy those and not miss the meat and dairy. Good luck, and hang in there! |
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| Bluesgyrl
Joined: 01/06/10 Posts: 159 |
RE: In need of moral support Posted Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 12:52 PM I agree with Wild4stars and Texgal. Wild4stars has a great suggestion about reading the China Study and other informative books (Im sure Essie or Wild4stars have many suggestions. I would go a step further and say for you to rent movies (as a visual aid) about eating animal products such as Food Inc. and others. It will put a "Face" to the items you are having a hard time with. At St. Pat's day I had an extrememly hard time not having corned beef. I wanted it but couldn't justify/rationalize it no matter how I tried. I just kept envisioning what is being done to those poor cows and it was enough motivation to keep me focused. I guess it was this point that I realized that the vegan thing was not going to be as easy as I thought. Especially around the holidays. Somewhere back when I started the Corned Beef thread, someone wrote something very profound. They said with this new way of eating to start new traditions and that really resinated with me. Although I didn't have the corned beef, my husband boiled the veges in the same spices as the corned beef had been in (separate) and it tasted just like the real thing. It was fantastic! Texgrl has a great point also. You can't beat yourself up. You have to take one day at a time. Be good to yourself by not only putting good things into yourself but by not beating yourself up everytime you falter. Everyone has good days and bad. It is the blessing of life to be able to learn and grow from the good times and bad. This is a life style change and definately for the better! Sorry for the novel. Hope this helps even a little. |
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| essie
Joined: 02/26/10 Posts: 163 |
RE: In need of moral support Posted Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 1:53 PM Re: books that might be helpful, have you read Dr. Barnard's Breaking the Food Seduction? That's very good. Another one I haven't read but will be getting to soon (as soon as I finish Healthy at 100 by John Robbins--also very good!) is The Pleasure Trap, author Lisle. Both of these talk about the physical/chemical reason's behind food addictions and overeating, and I think that's helpful to know. Somehow knowing as much as I can about the science helps me a lot. I feel less helpless, less like a failure, because I can explain to myself what is happening. Hope that helps! And that you hang in! Being vegan is the very best decision I ever made. Best, |
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| mollyhorn
Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 582 |
RE: In need of moral support Posted Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 2:13 PM Thanks, everyone!!! These are great suggestions. I especially like the reminders about not putting the equivalents of poison into my body. My body isn't a graveyard, and I deserve to treat it better than that. I also love that you're giving me a reading list. I'd been putting off reading the China Study simply because I hadn't found it at Half-Price Books yet, but I think I need to just go ahead and pay full price for it. Thank you, all... I feel much more hopeful today. Molly Horn |
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