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| callalilly2
Joined: 09/02/10 Posts: 30 |
hunger or habit Posted Tuesday, September 7, 2010 at 4:24 PM I don't have a problem with any of the food but if I don't like a "meal of the day" can I change it? Does it hurt weight loss results? What else can I have besides those meals if I get hungry? |
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| Susan Levin
Joined: 12/26/09 Posts: 1212 |
RE: hunger or habit Posted Tuesday, September 7, 2010 at 4:33 PM You can eat anything that is vegan and low-fat. Whole foods are best - grains, beans, fruits, and vegetables. Processed foods should not exceed 3 grams of fat per serving. Do not feel like you have to stick to our menu plan. It's merely a suggested plan that incorporates a wide variety of healthful foods. Susan Levin, MS, RD |
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| DebbieMN
Joined: 09/03/10 Posts: 27 |
RE: hunger or habit Posted Tuesday, September 7, 2010 at 5:19 PM I'm glad this question was asked. I'm so used to limiting what I can eat by former diets. Yesterday, I ate everything on the meal plan, but I was so hungry. I ate a few carrots and had a peach. I was wondering if it's ok to eat as much fruit as we want or should we try to limit it for weight loss. I'm just having trouble with worrying about eating too much. Plus, it's getting to be the end of summer and I want to have a little more fruit while it still tastes good!! |
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| DebbieMN
Joined: 09/03/10 Posts: 27 |
RE: hunger or habit Posted Tuesday, September 7, 2010 at 5:19 PM I'm glad this question was asked. I'm so used to limiting what I can eat by former diets. Yesterday, I ate everything on the meal plan, but I was so hungry. I ate a few carrots and had a peach. I was wondering if it's ok to eat as much fruit as we want or should we try to limit it for weight loss. I'm just having trouble with worrying about eating too much. Plus, it's getting to be the end of summer and I want to have a little more fruit while it still tastes good!! |
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| DebbieMN
Joined: 09/03/10 Posts: 27 |
RE: hunger or habit Posted Tuesday, September 7, 2010 at 5:19 PM I'm glad this question was asked. I'm so used to limiting what I can eat by former diets. Yesterday, I ate everything on the meal plan, but I was so hungry. I ate a few carrots and had a peach. I was wondering if it's ok to eat as much fruit as we want or should we try to limit it for weight loss. I'm just having trouble with worrying about eating too much. Plus, it's getting to be the end of summer and I want to have a little more fruit while it still tastes good!! |
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| Susan Levin
Joined: 12/26/09 Posts: 1212 |
RE: hunger or habit Posted Tuesday, September 7, 2010 at 5:21 PM Yes, eat as much whole fruit as you like. Not juice, not apple sauce, not fruit spreads, but whole fruit. All you can eat! Susan Levin, MS, RD |
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| jennifer
Joined: 09/02/10 Posts: 4 |
RE: hunger or habit Posted Tuesday, September 7, 2010 at 5:28 PM I'm not following the suggested menus completely but I am trying to eat low fat vegan meals. However, I am finding that I'm a bit hungrier between meals. The menus seem to allow for 1 snack a day. I'm a huge snacker and need more than 1 a day. For weight loss, what are the best snacks to stick with? I'm also wondering about portion size with regard to fruits and veggies. How much is too much? |
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| DebbieMN
Joined: 09/03/10 Posts: 27 |
RE: hunger or habit Posted Tuesday, September 7, 2010 at 5:34 PM Sorry for the multiple posts. I don't know what happened. |
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| BeckyinAustin
Joined: 09/06/10 Posts: 20 |
RE: hunger or habit Posted Tuesday, September 7, 2010 at 5:42 PM I like this question too -- previous attempts at being vegan have ended because I was sooooooo hungry. All the time. No natter how much I ate. Until I ate some cheese, my stomach just growled & growled. Not going to stop me from trying again, but isn't that weird? Has to have been in my head, right? We have done the impossible & that makes us mighty - Firefly |
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| dabouis
Joined: 09/07/10 Posts: 4 |
RE: hunger or habit Posted Tuesday, September 7, 2010 at 5:52 PM to BeckyinAustin: I don't think it is in your head...not sure what the answer truly is, but I experienced the same thing when trying to follow the Fuhrman plan. Don't know if it will work for you but I found that kidney beans, brown rice and bbq sauce (or some type of flavoring) does a great job filling me up. You could also add corn if you like and it is really yummy. Good luck! |
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| jmyers1050
Joined: 12/31/09 Location: Arizona Posts: 43 |
RE: hunger or habit Posted Wednesday, September 8, 2010 at 12:41 AM Dr. Fuhrman talks about toxic hunger, which is not true hunger, that can happen when you are switching to healthier foods. Your body is used to the other stuff and complains! It gets better if you just keep eating healthy food and eventually quits. Another possibility is it can take a while to figure out how much to eat as many of the vegan foods are digested quickly. Eating lots of beans and greens gives more staying power. Those without weight to lose can enjoy small amounts of nuts and seeds or avocado as well. |
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mollyhorn
 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 582 |
RE: hunger or habit Posted Wednesday, September 8, 2010 at 1:50 AM I have to snack frequently, as well, and have found that the best choices that fill me up while still allowing me to lose weight are raw vegetables. I cut up lots of raw vegetables into bite size pieces and have them available to snack on as-needed, with something to dip them in. I usually use the Walden Farms brand dressings. Not all are vegan, but most are. http://www.waldenfarms.com/ They are calorie-free, and therefore a great solution for those looking to lose weight. I moderate my fruit intake, because the sugar can cause weight gain. If I need something more substantial than just vegetables, I'll have 1/2 cup of beans with some nutritional yeast, salt and cumin. Also, this may sound simple, but make sure you're drinking plenty of water. With such a large dietary change, your body needs time to adjust. You will be hungry for the first couple of weeks... it just takes time. But you can do it! I hope those ideas help. Molly Horn |
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| funcrunch
Joined: 09/08/10 Location: San Francisco, California, USA Posts: 2 |
RE: hunger or habit Posted Wednesday, September 8, 2010 at 3:14 AM mollyhorn wrote: I usually use the Walden Farms brand dressings. Not all are vegan, but most are. http://www.waldenfarms.com/ They are calorie-free, and therefore a great solution for those looking to lose weight. [...] You will be hungry for the first couple of weeks... it just takes time. But you can do it! Hi, I just wanted to comment on a couple of things in your post. I'm not officially doing the kickstart but I am following the McDougall program which is a lowfat vegan diet, so the same basic goals and rules apply. McDougall cautions people not to be hungry. I don't let myself go hungry, I eat until I'm full. Actually I eat until I'm almost full, then wait ten minutes to see if I'm still actually hungry or not before getting seconds. The only time I allow myself to be a little hungry is within a couple of hours of bedtime. As far as the calorie-free dressings, that set off some warning bells for me, so I looked at their web site. It seems all of their products are basically Splenda and flavorings. I have trouble believing that they can make a truly calorie-free peanut spread, among other things. I believe they are taking advantage of the loophole where you don't have to list the calories if it's under a certain amount per serving. As a serving size is two tablespoons and I'm sure people usually use more than that, I would be cautious. Julie Bernstein | www.funcrunchphoto.com
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| mollyhorn
Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 582 |
RE: hunger or habit Posted Wednesday, September 8, 2010 at 7:14 AM You're correct about the calories and serving size. I've been using their products for years, though, and they allow me to maintain my food plan and abstinence from "dangerous" foods, while still enjoying delicious flavors. I look at it this way – if I'm getting 5 or 10 calories from their salad dressing, that is still a lot better than the 200 I would be getting from any other brand! The reason I said that about being hungry is that, in American society, we are so conditioned to overeat that many of us don't know what our true hunger/satiety cues feel like. When losing weight, one may feel hungry sometimes as the body adjusts to consuming fewer calories. This is normal. If a person is diligently following a prescribed plan, such as Eat to Live or McDougall, then they are much less likely to feel hunger, but that person would have to be very careful not to overeat on certain foods in the beginning phase of their plan, while they are adjusting to the new way of life. My comment was not meant to say "You must starve yourself;" only that when we are eating a healthy, normal diet, some hunger feelings are normal. We're not meant to feel stuffed all the time. Molly Horn |
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cch22
 Location: New York State Posts: 1001 |
RE: hunger or habit Posted Wednesday, September 8, 2010 at 7:32 AM curious as to why no applesauce? i get the ones that are just apples and water, no hfcs. |
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| mollyhorn
Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 582 |
RE: hunger or habit Posted Wednesday, September 8, 2010 at 8:12 AM cch22 wrote: curious as to why no applesauce? i get the ones that are just apples and water, no hfcs. I think it's because you lose most of the fiber from the apple, which is the part that fills you up. With applesauce, fruit juices, etc., you're getting all the sugar, with none of the benefits of fiber – which is the filling, cholesterol-removing part of the plant. Molly Horn |
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| cch22
Location: New York State Posts: 1001 |
RE: hunger or habit Posted Wednesday, September 8, 2010 at 9:22 AM now go figure applesauce is all over the forums as being ok.. put it in oatmeal .. whatever.. apples are better in cereal |
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| mollyhorn
Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 582 |
RE: hunger or habit Posted Wednesday, September 8, 2010 at 10:11 AM cch22 wrote: now go figure applesauce is all over the forums as being ok.. put it in oatmeal .. whatever.. apples are better in cereal so we don't have to worry about which fruits are higher in sugar? like bannanas, apples? corn = carbs.. eating right is sooo confusing. That's when using it as an ingredient in recipes, which is different. When Susan mentioned to avoid it as a snack, she meant that it wouldn't fill you up the same way that eating an apple would, so the apple would be a better choice for a snack. Personally, I choose lower sugar fruits because I have problems with blood sugar regulation, and I don't want to gain too much weight. Your fruit – and all your food choices – should be individualized to your own needs based on whether you want to gain weight, lose weight, or maintain your current weight, and whether you have any health issues to contend with. Molly Horn |
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