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Created on: 04/12/10 10:19 PM Views: 1784 Replies: 8
must... not... kill...
Posted Monday, April 12, 2010 at 10:19 PM

ARGH!!! I just got out of listenting to a room full of registered dietitians give a presentation on orthorexia. Their presentation included saying the following:
-- any focus on raw food is unhealthy
-- high fructose corn syrup is fine
-- a carb is a carb is a carb / your body doesn't know the difference
-- cake is the same thing as whole grains
-- saturated fat doesn't matter
-- veganism is just a front for an eating disorder
-- our society focuses too much on health (excuse me while I turn on the tv to one of the nine thousand junk food commercials currently airing)

By the end of it, I was so ready to ... I don't even know what. These are supposed to be professionals! Some with Master's degrees! What is the world coming to?!?

Molly Horn

RE: must... not... kill...
Posted Tuesday, April 13, 2010 at 5:00 AM

That's why they make ear plugs !!!

What an awful thing to be subjected to. I'm guessing you didn't feel free to raise a discussion. And I'd be interested to know if any of them were overweight??

Focuses too much on health? How could that be possible? What do you have if you have no health?

Vikki ~ Wild4Stars@gmail.com

RE: must... not... kill...
Posted Tuesday, April 13, 2010 at 8:06 AM

As usual they are probably being paid alot of money by someone to say it...

Natasha
www.beautifulbeads.ecrater.com

RE: must... not... kill...
Posted Tuesday, April 13, 2010 at 8:11 AM

Unfortunately, it was a lecture, and not a situation in which I could ask questions, challenge or discuss the topic. I just had to sit and listen (and fume). Only about 1/4 of them were overweight, surprisingly, but the dinner that was provided - hahaha - baked potatoes loaded with butter, sour cream, cheese and bacon! jeez.

Molly Horn

RE: must... not... kill...
Posted Tuesday, April 13, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Mollyhorn - Where did these so called registered dietitians get their degree? Question

RE: must... not... kill...
Posted Tuesday, April 13, 2010 at 2:04 PM

marcia wrote:

Mollyhorn - Where did these so called registered dietitians get their degree? Question

Not sure, Marcia... it was a lecture given by the "Disordered Eating Awareness Professional Network," but they all seemed fairly legit. Most had recently read the book Health Food Junkies by Dr. Steven Bratman, and were meeting to discuss orthorexia as the new eating disorder.

They even made a big point about how many people will hang up a shingle and call themselves nutritionists (which I agree with – there are a lot of quacks out there calling themselves nutritionists), without actually having any training or education.

But they kept talking about how "the internet is full of misinformation," and "you know, your clients will read something on the internet and come in the next day and ask about it."

While it may be true that there is misinformation on the internet, there is also a lot of good, accurate, reliable information! These college-educated, registered dietitians seem to have gotten stuck in their 1985-issue textbooks, unable to learn anything new. They loaded their potatoes with butter, cheese and sour cream and talked about saturated fat, HFCS and sugar as being perfectly acceptable in any person's diet (and not even in moderation), and yet claimed that their [obviously outdated] knowledge was superior to anything available online.

And these are the people who are supposed to be teaching us what to eat. It's no wonder that diabetics don't get better. That people suffer two, three, or four heart attacks. That dementia and strokes are on the rise.

I sound like a self-righteous jerk saying that, but please don't misunderstand me... I don't fault the people of our nation. I place fault with the system, our government and the food lobbyists, all of whom have fed us misinformation and outright lies for the last 50-100 years. We've had no choice but to believe the information we were given. It's only since we've gotten accessibility to the internet that we've been able to educate ourselves and improve our health.

I get really incensed over this issue because there is so much ill health and disease out there and it's not our fault. We've been lied to. I'm so new to all of this, I get overwhelmed sometimes, hence this long, rambling post. Embarassed

Molly Horn

Edited 04/13/10 2:10 PM
RE: must... not... kill...
Posted Tuesday, April 13, 2010 at 2:35 PM

I know where you are coming from. I get to talking about how mad meat and dairy are and I get the "look". If I could only get them to read "The China Study". I'll just keep eating vegan food and being healthy and keep loosing weight. Healthy, wealthy and wise. Laughing

RE: must... not... kill...
Posted Tuesday, April 13, 2010 at 4:49 PM

OMG! I can't even think of being in that lecture and not jumping up and mouthing off.
I think they ARE getting paid to say that. You'd have to live in cave for the last 30 years to now know that way of eating is ALL wrong. I have seen ads on tv that are pushing high fructose corn syrup. And after all the tests that prove how bad it is for us. It's so wrong. But it is probably the council on Corn Syrup.
Sorry you had to go through that. But as someone said we can just keep eating a whole foods diet WITHOUT meat and dairy and see who is left standing.
Maybe they don't know about the study of the 7day Adventist and how healthy they are.

aleta

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RE: must... not... kill...
Posted Tuesday, April 13, 2010 at 10:26 PM

Thanks, everyone. Very Happy
I appreciate all of the SANE thoughts and support. It's so good to have a place to come and talk about this stuff, and to have PCRM, Fuhrman, The China Study, Ornish, etc. in general. I feel really lucky that I found this way of life.

Molly Horn


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